'You' Season 5: Everything We Know

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The second half of You season 4 has hit Netflix, providing several huge twists about the identity of the Eat the Rich Killer and Joe Goldberg's fate. By the end of part 2, Joe is on top of the world, with the type of power and influence that will make it very hard to bring him down. Despite that, You's co-creator Sera Gamble says she already has ideas for where the series will go next. Read on for everything we know about a possible season 5 so far.

Has 'You' been renewed for season 5?

Not yet. Though season 4 received a renewal days before season 3 aired in October 2021, Netflix is taking its time deciding on a possible season 5. With the streaming giant (and the rest of the television industry) going through a difficult time, it seems that the fate of You season 5 will depend on the streaming numbers for the latest installment. (For everyone who was waiting for both parts of season 4 to air, now's your time!)

However, showrunner Sera Gamble already has an idea of where You can go next. She told The Hollywood Reporter last month, "We have an idea for season five that we’re excited about." It's great to hear because it would be a bummer for the series to tease Joe returning to New York and leave it there.

When would 'You' season 5 come out?

You isn't a show that returns once a year like clockwork. There's always been a lengthy wait between seasons, including a year and four months' hiatus between seasons 3 and 4. Filming for season 4 started in March 2022, with part 1 arriving in February 2023. If we keep the same pacing for a season 5, and Netflix takes a couple months to announce a renewal, the show could return around the second half of 2024.

penn badgley in you season 4
penn badgley in you season 4

What could happen in 'You' season 5?

Spoilers for You season 4. Gamble summarized where Joe stands at the end of season 4 in an interview with The Cut. "We kept saying that we’re going to make him go very far away so that he can come home again," she told the outlet. "We always knew we wanted him to go back to New York, have a homecoming, have his real name, shave his beard, and look like Joe Classic, but that he would be much more in the category of people he used to watch from afar. Now he has near unlimited resources. He has the support of powerful people and he has a lot less ambivalence about what he does in private. So, that’s the setup."

That lessened ambivalence comes from his acceptance of his dark side, which was brought into being as Rhys. We see the horror of Joe coming into his final form when he kills Nadia's boyfriend Edward and frames her for the murder, all to shut her up. However, I don't think that Joe would begin killing without cause. Even at his darkest in season 4, he always felt that the people he killed deserved to die, either through his own tortured logic or because they're generally horrible. Seeing as he'll now run in very wealthy circles—think rooms full of Tom Lockwoods—he may end up running afoul of another mogul.

The more interesting question than "who will Joe kill next?" is "who will finally stop Joe?" At this point, there are several people who know the truth about him and have reason to want him dead, and most of them are younger people whom he used to mentor or protect in some way. We have brilliant student Nadia, aspiring filmmaker Ellie, and even his old neighbor Paco from season 1. It would be fun to see at least Nadia or Ellie finally bring the murderer to justice, either on their own or by convincing Kate to turn on him, maybe by revealing the full details of Joe's killings that he probably definitely didn't tell her about. (Yes, there's also Marienne, but I'm okay with her just enjoying her low-key Paris life with Juliette offscreen.)

As for Kate, who seems to genuinely want to remain a good person, hopefully she'll just get out of next season on the right side of justice rather than the wrong end of Joe's rage.

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charlotte ritchie you season 4

What have the cast and crew said about 'You' season 5?

In a Hollywood Reporter interview about Part 2, Penn Badgley said that new You seasons will have to grapple with Joe's ascension to immense wealth and power, and what it will take to bring him to justice.

"That’s a question for the writers and for Netflix as to the whereabouts of season five [which has yet to be ordered]," he said. "What I like is that it actually puts us in a new place, because as much as we like watching the arc of Joe, we also want him to be brought to justice. But, death or prison? Are they that satisfying? What do we even mean when we say "brought to justice"? Do we really want vengeance? Do we want revenge? Do we want torture? What is it that people want? And, what is actual justice? They’re not necessarily the same thing."

"So, I’m not sure," he continued. "But I think he actually can go to a new place and, if and when it happens, it’ll probably be this spectacular resolution that everybody’s hoping it could be, because now he has further to fall. He has power and the stakes are high. He’s not just some guy anymore."

Will 'You' season 5 be the final season?

Maybe. Gamble has stayed mum on a specific answer for how much longer You will go on. What she has promised is that the series won't continue on indefinitely. In an interview with Vulture, the co-creator said that she thinks of You as a sort of "antihero" show, "where the arc of the series is the arc of the character, and when that arc is complete, so is the show."

"This is why we have no intention of making 15 seasons of this show," she continued. "This is not CSI: Joe Goldberg. It’s not procedural. He changes over the course of the show. And there’s a point where we’re done."

Badgley also spoke on the show's future during an episode of the podcast Happy Sad Confused, he said if the show were to return for Season 5 he thinks it could be its last.

“I signed a six-year contract right out the gate. So they could do two more if they wanted,” he explained. “I think if there’s another season, I think it;s only going to be one. I think—this is my understanding, but I don’t know, I really don’t know. But I know that everybody concerned, from the top on down, nobody wants this show to become tired.”