On Friday, Reddit user u/Winologue asked people, "In which movie did the villain actually have a point?" It led to people making their case for movie villains we've been programmed to dislike, and it's interesting AF to read.
Here's what people said:
1."Baby’s dad in Dirty Dancing. He just wanted to keep a sketchy dance instructor from diddling his underage daughter."
2."Principal Mullins in School of Rock. She definitely had a right to be concerned. No Vacancy had a right to kick him out of the band, and Ned and his girlfriend had a right to be pissed at their roommate for not paying rent."
3."Shylock in The Merchant of Venice. The play's entire message could be summed up as 'Shylock's not wrong; he's just an asshole.'"
4."Khan in Star Trek. Kirk should've checked on the Khan colonists' progress. Ceti Alpha Six EXPLODED! WTF, Kirk?"
5."Now he wasn’t really a villain, but he was the antagonist — Goofy in A Goofy Movie had understandably good reasons to be scared for his son from his perspective."
6."The shark in Jaws. The ocean is his home."
7."The wicked witch in Wizard of Oz. Yeah, she was a witch, but c'mon. They were her dead sister's shoes. She should have them. Not some stranger who just showed up and wants them. Oh, by the way, this stranger that just showed up was the one who killed her sister. Sad, really."
8."Flint Marko (aka Sandman) from Spider-Man 3. He's a desperate father with a daughter on her deathbed, just trying to amass the funding necessary to bring her back to health."
9."General Hummel (Ed Harris) in The Rock. All he wanted was for soldiers' sacrifices to be recognized by their government. He just chose the worst possible way to pursue that goal."
10."The Machines in The Matrix. The humans in that story were stupid, cruel, and destroyed the earth."
11."Emmet's dad in The Lego Movie. Kids, just break Legos and turn your house into a Lego mine."
12."Carrie in Carrie. They all deserved it for bullying her."
13."The opponent groups in Pitch Perfect 1, 2, 3. Come on now. The Treblemakers had way better arrangements. The one guy was literally called up to work with John Mayer. The smoker had a better voice than all of them. And the German group was far superior. Their moms were subpar at best. I mean, they hadn’t sang for like two decades. Also, all the bands were better."
14."Val Kilmer as Iceman in Top Gun. He was 100% accurate. Maverick was dangerous — so dangerous that he had his copilot killed."
15."Te Kā in Moana. If someone stole my heart, I'd want to try to get it back through any means necessary, even if it makes me turn into a lava monster and create a massive corruption that will inevitably send the entire world into the bloodthirsty jaws of inescapable death."
Did they miss any villains who made valid points? Let me know in the comments below!
Note: Responses edited for length and/or clarity.