Mastercard CEO Teases CBDC Panel: SWIFT May Not Exist in 5 Years

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DAVOS, Switzerland — Mastercard (MA) CEO Michael Miebach made people gasp. He answered “no” when asked if SWIFT, the current interbank messaging system that allows for cross-border payments, will exist in five years' time.

He smiled during his answer but the crowd seemingly took his answer seriously.

Miebach spoke on a panel adjacent to the World Economic Forum’s annual (WEF) summit hosted by the Global Blockchain Business Council (GBBC). The panel discussed the future of cross-border payments and the potential of CBDCs in the financial system.

“If you can get a payment with all the data attached that you need as a company [...] the cost savings of that in addition to a payment cost that is lowered, and the overall productivity boost, we can expect if we do this well, that’s the real goal here,” Miebach said on the panel.

The conference officially kicked off Tuesday, with crypto being mentioned frequently in panels adjacent to the conference. The subject is bolstered by the strong presence of crypto companies on promenade, the main street leading up to the Congress, where official WEF panels take place.

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Also part of Tuesday’s panel was Jennifer Lassiter, executive director of the Digital Dollar Project; Yuval Rooz, the CEO of Digital Asset; David Treat, a director at Accenture and co-founder of the Digital Dollar Project; and Jon Frost, senior economist at the Bank of International Settlements. They all said SWIFT will still exist in five years.

Miebach was the only one to say that maybe in the near future SWIFT might not be the dominant system to transfer money across continents. Both Lassiter and Rooz also seemed to think SWIFT may one day be replaced, but said that five years won’t likely be enough time.

A Mastercard spokesperson downplayed the impact of Miebach’s response in a statement sent via email after the panel.

“Let us clarify the intent of the on-stage comment as it’s not as simple as a yes or no answer. Michael was simply reinforcing what SWIFT has previously said – their operations continue to evolve. Its current form will not be the same in the future. They are adding more functionality and moving past just being a messaging system,” the spokesperson said.

But attendees at WEF are nonetheless paying attention. One guest asked a panel during a discussion on centralization about Miebach’s comments, while another attendee was overheard asking about it at the Congress Centre.