WisdomTree, Inc. (NYSE:WT) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

WisdomTree, Inc. (NYSE:WT) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript February 3, 2023

Operator: Greetings. Welcome to WisdomTree's Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the conference over to Jessica Zaloom, Head of Corporate Communications. Jessica, you may now begin.

Jessica Zaloom: Good morning. Before we begin, I would like to reference our legal disclaimer available in today's presentation. This presentation may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the results discussed in forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, the risks set forth in this presentation and in the Risk Factors section of WisdomTree's annual report, on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, as amended, and quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2022. WisdomTree assumes no duty and does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements. Now it is my pleasure to turn the call over to WisdomTree's CFO, Bryan Edmiston.

Bryan Edmiston: Thank you, Jessica, and welcome, everyone. I'll begin by reviewing the results of the fourth quarter, and we'll then turn the call over to Jarrett and Jono for additional updates on our business. Fourth quarter caps what's been a very successful year for WisdomTree. We generated net flows totaling $5.3 billion, with positive flows in both our U.S. listed and European-listed products. This was our strongest flowing quarter since 2015, and we closed out the year with $82 billion of AUM, our highest quarter end on record. Flows of $3.4 billion into our Floating Rate Treasury product, USFR, was the primary contributor. That was followed by flows across most other product categories, including our U.S. equity products with about $1 billion of flows as well as our commodity suite having turned a corner with $800 million of flows mostly into oil.

We have overcome an incredibly challenging market backdrop, with negative market movement, impacting our AUM by almost $8 billion for the year. Notwithstanding the market declines, our revenues were essentially flat year-over-year as we generated over $12 billion of net flows, our strongest flowing year since 2015, representing annualized organic flow growth of 16%. USFR was a shining star, but not the only story. Our U.S. equity product flows have been consistently strong with positive net flows for 30 of the last 31 months and over $3 billion of flows during the year and annualized organic flow growth rate of 14%. We ended the year with sustained momentum as evidenced by nine consecutive positive flowing quarters. Our AUM currently stands at a record level, $87.2 billion, an increase of 6% from the end of December as our momentum continues, having generated almost $1.7 billion of flows in January and having benefited from positive market movement.

Next Slide. Revenues were $73.3 million, essentially unchanged from the third quarter as our higher average AUM was offset by a 2 basis point decline in our average advisory fee due to changes in our AUM mix. Adjusted net income was $7 million or $0.04 a share. Our non-GAAP results exclude a non-cash after-tax loss of $35 million for our future gold commitment payments due to an update to the discount rate used to compute the present value of the annual payment obligations. Next Slide. Our operating expenses were up 7% for the quarter. This increase was largely due to higher incentive compensation accruals as well as higher seasonal marketing and sales-related expenses. We ended the year with compensation expense of about $98 million for the middle of our previously disclosed guidance and with discretionary spending of $49.4 million, the low end of our guidance range.

Next Slide. Now a few comments on our 2023 expense guidance. This upcoming year will include a reinvestment into future growth initiatives, taking into consideration our anticipated national launch of WisdomTree Prime and continued focus on organic growth. We are forecasting our compensation expense to range from $96 million to $106 million. This guidance includes hires, both in sales and digital assets as well as year-end compensation adjustments and annualization of hires made in 2022. The range considers variability in incentive compensation with drivers, including the magnitude of our flows, our share price performance in relation to our peers as well as revenue, operating income and operating margin performance. Also, just a reminder that we experienced elevated seasonality in the amount of compensation we report in the first quarter as we recognized payroll taxes, benefits and other items in connection with the payment of year-end compensation.

We estimate first quarter compensation expense to be approximately $27 million to $28 million. Discretionary spending ranges from $56 million to $59 million as compared to the $49.4 million recognized in 2022. This guidance includes a modest uplift for WisdomTree Prime marketing and other related costs. Our gross margin is anticipated to be 78% at current AUM levels. We would anticipate margin expansion, assuming continued organic flow growth. Our contractual gold payment expense is forecasted to be $18 million, assuming gold prices remain flat at current levels. As a reminder, this expense is based on us paying 9,500 ounces of gold on an annual basis and is measured based upon monthly average gold prices. Third-party distribution expense is forecasted to be approximately $8 million to $9 million and is dependent upon AUM growth on our respective platforms.

Our adjusted tax rate is expected to be about 23%, taking into consideration a change in U.K. corporate income tax rate from 19% to 25%, which is effective in 2023. As a reminder, the UK rate increase is something that will impact all companies with the footprint in the United Kingdom. And in June of this year, $175 million of our convertible notes are coming due. While not setting stone, we're currently planning to reduce our debt by approximately $50 million and refinancing the remainder. Our interest cost is estimated to temporarily rise in 2023 to about $16 million as any debt reduction will occur midway through the year, coupled with a higher interest rate associated with our refinancing. Our normalized interest expense exiting 2023 is estimated to be about $14 million or $1 million lower versus what was recognized this past year.

That's all I have. I will now turn the call over to Jarrett.

Jarrett Lilien: Thanks, Bryan and good morning, everyone. While many other asset managers struggled with the challenging markets, WisdomTree delivered its best year of net inflows since 2015 and exited 2022 with record AUM. Our 16% organic growth rate was best-in-class versus our publicly traded peers. Our product performance was and is outstanding with over 80% of our U.S. AUM beating benchmarks. Our managed models business continues to grow in significance with platform partners such as Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley and with RIA and independent broker-dealer partners through our WisdomTree portfolio and growth solutions offering. We continue to increase our efficiency and scalability in our global ETP and models business now delivers incremental margins well north of 50%.

And we have staked out a first-mover advantage in digital assets and blockchain-enabled finance, now with a suite of 10 blockchain-enabled funds effective with the SEC in addition to our gold and dollar tokens. And this all sums up a highly successful 2022, but it also highlights why 2023 and beyond will continue to be strong. We have the products and solutions. We have the fund positioning and performance. We have the first mover positioning in digital assets and blockchain-enabled finance. And we have multiple years of momentum with global inflows for the past nine consecutive quarters, 30 of the past 31 months in the U.S. and then seven of eight of our major product categories over the past year. All in all, 2022 was another successful year, and we are confident and excited about 2023 and beyond.

And with that, let me now turn it over to Jono.

Jonathan Steinberg: Thank you, Jarrett. The momentum in our ETF franchise is incredible. WisdomTree was one of the only asset managers with net inflows in 2022. And as Jarrett said, best-in-class 16% organic growth. We exited the year with over $5 billion of inflows in the fourth quarter, our best quarter in nearly seven years. We expect our momentum to continue in 2023, and we are off to a strong start with year-to-date inflows of almost $1.7 billion. We expect strong and steady organic growth based on our strong fund performance, a shift in sentiment to value and our ever-expanding model franchise. 2023 looks to be even more exciting. In digital assets and blockchain-enabled finance, the pace of our progress is sped up. After years of engagement with the SEC around our process and protections, our first blockchain-enabled fund was declared effective in late September.

Then roughly 2.5 months later, nine additional blockchain-enabled funds went effective with the SEC. We now have a broad investment suite of digital funds that span both fixed income and equities plus our gold and dollar tokens. These are the building blocks investors or consumers need to build holistic portfolios or to facilitate financial services inside WisdomTree Prime. As we refine our launch plans, our goal now is to launch WisdomTree Prime in the app stores in Q2. That's the significant go-live event. Investors and consumers should be looking forward to. We are on the precipice of a major shift in financial services into digital blockchain realm, and WisdomTree is well positioned to meet that opportunity. The beauty of our digital wallet is that it can be many things to various types of users and with a nimble blockchain-based tech backbone, WisdomTree Prime has the ability to evolve quickly to meet future use cases.

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I'm excited for all of you to try our platform later this year, and we look forward to sharing our successes in product development and feature enhancements with you throughout the year. And finally, the operations and strategy committee concluded at the end of last year. The committee dug deep into WisdomTree and generated a report for the Board. I'm pleased to report that the Board unanimously voted in support of both the executive management team and with the strategy of the firm. WisdomTree remains on track with incredible momentum and a tremendous opportunity ahead in ETFs, model solutions, digital assets and blockchain-enabled finance. I look forward to sharing our ongoing progress with you in coming quarters. With that, operator, can you turn the call over to our Head of Investor Relations, Jeremy Campbell, to take some questions from our shareholders.

A - Jeremy Campbell: Hello, and good morning, everybody. Similar to prior quarters, we're going to do some Q&A from the retail shareholders via the Say platform. The first question goes to Will Peck, Head of Digital Assets for WisdomTree. And the question is, who do you view as the major competitors to WisdomTree Prime? And what is the go-to-market strategy and competitive dynamics in digital assets given all the messy news flow over the past year?

William Peck: Thanks a lot, Jeremy, and good morning, everyone. I'll start to answer this question a bit more broadly. Digital assets at WisdomTree is about €“ one term could be real-world asset tokenization that's certainly been a more topical term for a lot of people and bringing the benefits of blockchain technology to traditional real-world assets, right? And in that space, I'd highlight two firms as kind of competitors or peer firms or whatever you want to call them. That would be Circle and Paxos who's kind of a and gold token issuer in the space, and engage in other aspects here. Specifically, within digital assets, obviously, WisdomTree Prime is a huge key component of it. WisdomTree Prime, like Jono said, it's an app that allows you to save, spend, invest using this new digital asset technology.

Aspirationally, I'd highlight someone like Revolut as a competitor here. They've done a good job kind of combining those pieces together, I think. For us, it will take some time to kind of build out the full functionality of that. Whereas initially, we're going to have a very curated and user-friendly investor experience, combined with good cash management functionality is what we're striving for. And that kind of leads into the second part of the question in terms of our go-to-market strategy. It's really going to be articulating those areas where we're adding value for customers, we're laser focused on acquiring them and a high ROI way. Cost-effective acquisition where we have a hook. And in terms of the last part of the question on messy news flow, it's only a positive for WisdomTree.

We think how we're different, how we can be a good counterparty for people both on the retail and institutional side. So no concerns there at all. And ultimately, our strategy and position is going to be about customers not but its on blockchain. So no concern there whatsoever.

Jeremy Campbell: All right. We'll move on to the next question. This one is going to be to Jeremy Schwartz, our Chief Investment Officer. We had a few questions kind of along the same line, so just kind of combining them here into this one. The question is, what do you think will be the biggest driver of flow growth in 2023 for both the ETF industry overall and for WisdomTree in particular? And will the rotation from growth to value hold up?

Jeremy Schwartz: Well, thanks for those questions, everyone. For the industry at large, we continue to see ETFs taking market share from legacy structures. And you'll have active managers who like to equip that ETF and indexing do well riding bull markets but bear markets where their nimbleness and activeness can add alpha but flows really show the reverse. Investors use bear markets to liquidate their legacy positions. And that's basically exactly what happened across the globe last year. We saw ETF gaining market share really in most asset classes, we continue to see the long-term trend and structural advantages of ETFs remaining firmly in place for as far as we can see, yet we continue to innovate as well as just talking about in future structures.

And so we're doing both continuing with ETFs for a long time and investing in the future. Now for us, in particular, in flows for WisdomTree, obviously, there are so many places, we're excited about in both the U.S. and Europe due to just such broad strength we have within the product set. I think on the major theme we're talking is that there's income back in fixed income, and we're having so many more consultations with clients about how they're managing cash and short duration exposures. Certainly, that floating rate treasury product we've talked about continues to remain attractive as they're essentially the highest yielding treasuries in the market because of the shape of the yield curve that looks to continue to be the case for some time, and we're going to continue to expand the scope of those discussions but we're broadening fixed income discussion to high-yield bonds, core bonds, our fixed income model portfolios and even digital funds of those models that are income based to capitalize on the yields we see at the short end of the curve.

So all that has the potential to expand our fixed income AUM momentum this year, all very exciting trends. Within equities, there's a number of different styles, but I'd emphasize as a firm we have more diversification globally across varying styles than we've ever had before. If you took Europe, we have a very robust thematic lineup for the growth style, and that's complemented, of course, by our quality dividend value approaches. But what's exciting is, we're seeing traction on all those sides in the usage range across the style box there. Of course, we believe in value and dividends over the long run. That was our original launch, but we think there's some really compelling opportunities in high dividend stocks globally and that strong performance from last year with dividend funds with 15-year track record, that should be a very useful catalyst going forward.

2022 was the best year for many of our U.S. dividend ETFs in their history for flows and even performance. So we expect that to continue catalyst B flows for this year. The flagship equity was Quality Dividend Growth is now our largest ETF. It's coming up on 10-year history in a few months and had a great long-term track record, a great 2022, that is traveling globally to the European business and clients there, and we see that driving existing and future innovation for Europe as well. And finally, I have to talk about commodities. It's benefiting cyclically from China's reopening. You can see that in Q4 and continuing with a very strong January, that market leadership position we have with now the world's largest oil ETP as well as five of the six largest inflows to industrial metals, which are part of the energy transition story coming to our product set.

I mean we're very excited about the single commodities but also broad-based commodities. We think there's opportunities to gain market share both for that asset class and within that asset class with our recent innovation. Just in short, you could hear, we believe our asset mix is very well positioned for this current macro. And then you can add model portfolios that are packaging all these solutions together, gaining more traction. We believe that's all stackable on top of the current product set, which is more stickier, more recurring. We're very excited about that managed model franchise growing in proportion to the business and helping flow growth pick up and be more resilient than it was in the past.

Jeremy Campbell: Great. Thanks, Jeremy. And then the final question, we're taking from the Say platform from shareholders is going to go to our Chief Financial Officer, Bryan Edmiston. The question is, WisdomTree's revenues have been remarkably stable between $72 million and $78 million over the last four quarters. Why haven't you achieved consistent profitability?

Bryan Edmiston: Thanks, Jeremy. Yes, I would agree with the characterization that our revenues have been remarkably stable, especially taking into consideration the market environment this past year. Our AUM was negatively impacted by about $8 billion from market move this year, but we were able to overcome this headwind on strong and steady flows. As mentioned in our prepared remarks, we generated over $12 billion of flows this year, 16% annualized organic growth rate, best-in-class amongst our traditional asset manager peer group, and this is our strongest flowing year since 2015 and the momentum continued into 2023. Flows are the reason why our revenues are flat versus last year and not down. We estimate that negative market move impacted our revenue by over $20 million this past year.

As it relates to the question of consistent profitability, I think this is referring to the fluctuations in our GAAP net income. The primary reason for the fluctuation is due to the deferred consideration we're carrying on our balance sheet and it relates to our contractual gold payments. When we acquired our European business back in 2018, we inherited this obligation and it requires that we make annual payments of 9,500 ounces of gold through the year 2058 and two-thirds of this amount, almost 6,400 ounces into perpetuity. So for accounting purposes, we have a large liability on our balance sheet, representing an obligation to make these payments essentially forever. As gold prices change, this impacts the value of this liability. Changes in the discount rate we used to present value.

This obligation, will also change the value of this liability. That change in value is reported in our income statement as a gain loss on revaluation of deferred consideration, and it's a non-cash item. Over the last four quarters, we've had gains and losses ranging from $2 million to $78 million due to changes in value of this obligation. That's the main reason for the volatility observed in our P&L. It's essentially accounting noise, and we exclude this from our results when reporting our earnings per share on a non-GAAP basis.

Jeremy Campbell: Great. Thanks, Bryan. And operator, I'll turn it over to you to field some questions from the sell-side community that are dialed in.

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