Lindsay Hubbard is ready for her Hot Hubbs Summer on season 6 of 'Summer House'
Lindsay Hubbard is opening up like never before. Gibson Johns interviews the original "Summer House" cast member about the upcoming sixth season of the Bravo show, including going into the summer looking to play the field, her friendship with Danielle Olivera, watching Kyle Cooke and Amanda Batula overcome new relationship struggles and a serious reveal she makes about her life at the end of the season premiere. They also chatted about Paige DeSorbo's relationship with Craig Conover, where Lindsay stands with Austen Kroll (both in this season and right now) and what the true nature of her relationship with longtime co-star and friend Carl Radke is now (yes, the rumors are true!).
Video Transcript
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GIBSON JOHNS: Hi, guys. Welcome back to "We Should Talk," a pop culture interview series from "In the Know." I'm your host, Gibson Johns. And this week on the podcast, we have Lindsay Hubbard from "Summer House," which means that, yes, "Summer House" is officially back on Bravo. Season six premieres on Monday, January 17 at 9:00 PM.
And Lindsay is always an amazing interview. She is such an open book. She has such great energy. And I think she's really one of the stars of "Summer House." And we talked about everything under the sun, everything about season six, everything from "Winter House" that's carrying over to this season of "Summer House."
It's the first time we've really had this off-season check-in with this whole cast in any official capacity beyond social media, which I think is really fun. And it's sort of adding this whole other layer of things to this premiere and this season. This is Lindsay's Hot Hubbs Summer, as it's being dubbed, and she's really kind of trying to play the field, not being tied down after last year's sort of disastrous relationship. And it seems like she had a lot of fun.
We talked about her and Austin, Austin and Ciara, also a lot about Lindsay and Carl. Because I think, you know, regardless of whether they're friends or dating, it's always been undeniable that they have had a really deep connection, and it's gotten kind of deeper over the years. And we see that in a really emotional moment in the premiere. And we talked about where they stand. She confirmed something really big that a lot of people have been speculating about her love life in this interview.
You know, I won't take the words out of her mouth. You can keep listening for that. But I was really surprised that she did confirm that. And yeah, we also talked about Kyle and Amanda, Craig and Paige, the newbies and then also the premiere, which is a really fantastic episode. It ends with this really emotional moment that I just mentioned, and it's something that Lindsay went through in the off-season that nobody knew about, very serious, very heartbreaking.
But she shares it for the first time in a really organic, emotional way. And we kind of talked around that, because I think it's gonna come out in the premiere episode. But I just really admire her for sharing that, and again, just being such an open book. Because I think it will endear people to her even more than they already do. Because everyone already loves Lindsay.
But anyway, keep listening for my interview with Lindsay Hubbard. Tune into the season six premiere of "Summer House" on Bravo Monday, January 17 at 9:00 PM. And please rate, review, and subscribe to "We Should Talk" on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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All right, guys. So we are here with Lindsay Hubbard, Hubb House. "Summer House" season 6 is on the horizon. Lindsay, how are you?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I mean, I just cannot believe that it's six seasons. Like, if you really stop and think about it, that is wild.
GIBSON JOHNS: Wild. I mean, that means that-- that means that we've done probably, like, eight to 10 interviews over the years--
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--at this point.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. No, probably more.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, honestly. "Winter House" has several seasons. So it's been a fun ride. And again, like, I I've said this a million times, but I can't think of another show on Bravo that's had such a steady upward trajectory over the years. It just gets better and better every single year.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, well, that's really hard to do.
GIBSON JOHNS: It is. A lot of people peak early. And you guys-- I don't know if you've reached your peak yet.
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LINDSAY HUBBARD: Oh, I hope not. I mean, we're just getting started.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, I totally agree. So, you know, I feel like we just-- I mean, I feel like I just saw you at the "Winter House" premiere party. But "Winter House" was a whirlwind ride. It was six episodes.
It was really fun. A lot came out of that show. Do you feel like this is sort of, like, a year round thing now for you now that we're doing "Summer House," "Winter House?" Like, it's a full-time gig.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, it really is. It's interesting, because, you know, while "Summer House" is airing-- which obviously, it premieres next week, and then you'll see us on TV for three, four months-- then hopefully, you know, we're out filming "Winter House."
And then next thing you know, when that premieres, we're doing press. So it does kind of-- you kind of collide with each other when one's on TV and you're doing press for the other one. And, you know, you start to go-- your wires get crossed. But it's fun.
GIBSON JOHNS: I think it's also-- it adds layers to it. I mean, again, like, so much happened on "Winter House," even though it was such a short season. Like, I think it makes more intrigue for what "Summer House" has to bring this season, you know?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Totally. And I'm glad you guys get to see now that so much does happen during the off-season, you know? Like, our whole lives aren't developed during the summertime. As much as we would love to admit that, it's just not the case. There's a lot that happens in the fall, winter, spring.
So being able to have a second show that helps tell those stories of what happens during the off-season from "Summer House" is also, I think, very helpful. And I think you'll see in this season of "Summer House" there's a lot of unfinished business from "Winter House" that we still have to cover and does get brought up in this season of "Summer House."
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. And we'll get some visitors. Like, I think it's-- again, it changes the game a little bit. And I think, you know, coming out of "Winter House," there's a lot of kind of love life things that we're trying to follow, I think.
And people are trying to piece together what we can expect. But for you, I think it's being dubbed the Hot Hubb Summer. I think, like, you have a couple of irons in the fire. I feel like it seems like you don't want to be tied down, really, this summer. Is that a correct sort of kind of characterization of your mindset last summer?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Oh, 100%. You know, last season of "Summer House," I was very much tied down. I was in a relationship that wasn't the healthiest of relationships. And, you know, right before going into filming this summer, I went through a pretty significant life moment. And my summer could have gone a very, very different direction. So once that happened, I sort of just changed my outlook on how I wanted my summer to go. And I really just wanted zero attachments and to just focus on having so much fun this summer. And I did. I can honestly say that I think I had the most fun summer of my entire life. Legitimately the most fun. So that was my goal, and I think I accomplished it.
GIBSON JOHNS: Good. And do you attribute that to, like, just your mindset and how you approach things? Do you attribute that to, like, sort of-- it wasn't like last summer where you guys were locked down, so you could kind of bust out a little more? Or what do you kind of attribute that to having so much fun?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, for sure. I mean, as you said, it was a Hot Hubb Summer. I was very single this summer, had zero attachments. And I didn't really let anyone else's drama affect me so much this summer, whereas maybe in the past, I did.
GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I was just super focused on, like, living my life, having fun, and just enjoying myself.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: You know, I spent a lot-- my entire life focused on my career, and putting that first, and attempting to have these relationships where I've made very terrible decisions because I wasn't super focused on what I wanted personally in my life. So this summer, I think a lot of me changing my mindset of just wanting to have fun also kind of coincided with the decision that I made to put my career more on the back burner and focus on myself and what I wanted, you know, in my personal life.
GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm. And when you say you put your career on the back burner, does that mean that you aren't as involved in the PR side of things now, and you're sort of--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. I put a pause on--
GIBSON JOHNS: OK.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --on my PR career, which is something I've never done.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. I think [INAUDIBLE]
LINDSAY HUBBARD: And I've been working since I was 14 years old. So for 20 years, I've never taken more than a week off. I've never ever taken more than a week, even when I graduated college.
I moved to New York three days later and started working at a PR firm immediately. Even when I was in between PR firms or starting my own PR firm, there was almost-- there were zero days. Even when I started Hubb House PR, I started that the next day after I left my last PR firm.
GIBSON JOHNS: Totally.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: So I've never taken a break to just solely focus on what Hubb House wants in my personal life. And, you know, I think that's an important thing that, you know, needs to happen at some point. And I really did focus on that, and that allowed me to have fun.
And when I truly say zero attachments, I truly mean that. I had zero attachments romantically as far as having a boyfriend. And I had zero attachments as far as being married to my work.
GIBSON JOHNS: Totally. Yeah, and I think, I mean, there's obviously other ways for you to make money now. You have a whole new kind of career for yourself over the past five or six years, which is amazing. So I think that's awesome. And I think again, we saw last summer-- it made for some wild moments but I think-- I mean, I'll never forget your sandwich comment--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: [LAUGHS]
GIBSON JOHNS: --but-- or that dinner by the pool-- but I think it was important for you to have a different summer this year. And I think that I'm glad and I'm excited to see sort of what that entails and what we're going to see there. So I mean, like I said, we have a couple of irons in the fire. And you ended "Winter House" kind of hooking up with Jason. But then in this premiere, it seems like Austin might be back in the mix.
Obviously, you know, there's the constant questions of what you and Carl are. So I just want to go through a little bit. So with Austin-- him and Ciara-- this filmed before "Winter House" aired, which I think is important to say. Because I think, you know, Sierra and him-- I think we saw a lot of that in "Winter House," and probably saw a lot more of what they had to say about that.
But him and Ciara didn't end "Winter House" exclusive, and you guys have a long history, as we learned on "Winter House." And it seems like-- I mean, we see a really intimate moment between you two in a bed in the trailer for this season. Very intimate. [LAUGHS] I can't even repeat the one-liner he says to you.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Oh my god.
GIBSON JOHNS: But what can we expect there? Are you gonna fully jump back into that with him? Or are you just kind of having fun with him again? Because it seems like it causes some drama with Ciara as well.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. I mean, it's obviously-- Austin comes out-- this summer, he actually came for my birthday weekend. It was a pretty big birthday. And I threw an epic huge themed party--
GIBSON JOHNS: So sad I missed it, Lindsay.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I know. I invited you. I was like, come out for my birthday. Weren't you celebrating your birthday or something?
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, we're both Leos. We both have similar--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. I think you were like, sorry, I'm celebrating my birthday.
GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Like, you Leo [BLEEP]. I get it. I was like, I get it, though. Yeah, so yeah. So he came out for my birthday, and that was it. But yeah, a lot get gets accomplished when Austin's in the mix. So you'll see how that all goes down.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I will say that was for sure one of the best weekends in all of "Summer House" history.
GIBSON JOHNS: Wow. For you personally, or is that just a general statement?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I don't know. I think you could-- that themed party was just so epic.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: It was just an epic themed party.
GIBSON JOHNS: I'm excited to see it. And it seems like-- I mean, we see Danielle say something along the lines of-- the two girls are fighting-- the two women are fighting over a guy, and he's sort of getting off scot-free. He's sort of implies this in the trailer, and then we see Danielle and Ciara throwing wine at each other. What can we expect from how that complicates the kind of female friendships in that circle.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Well, I mean, it doesn't affect Danielle and I's friendship.
GIBSON JOHNS: Of course. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. No, you guys are solid.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. So this was kind of a double-pronged question. I think as far as females fretting over Austin, I don't fight females over men. I don't find that I need or have ever needed to compete with females, especially over guys.
I think Ciara was maybe trying to be the more aggressor when it came to the fighting portion of that. And as far as affecting my friendship with Ciara, I just never really had one to begin with. She came in season five with Luke and then didn't really talk to him and didn't really talk to me.
And then I didn't really talk to her in "Winter House" either. She was kind of consumed with, you know, her developing relationship with Austin. So I never really had some sort of friendship or relationship with Ciara that anything would be affected.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. So for you, it's like you don't have sort of any allegiance to her, so why can't you kind of pursue what you want to pursue kind of thing?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Well, I mean, listen, Austin and I have known each other for--
GIBSON JOHNS: Of course.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --a very long time. And I'm certainly not gonna cater to anybody who wants to stake claims or compete with me-- compete with somebody else. But I don't really play that game. You know, and as far as the wine throwing, we didn't know until somebody slowed that whole scene down or that whole situation. We didn't know that the glass was thrown until that was slowed down, which I think is kind of a big--
GIBSON JOHNS: I mean, it's very "Housewivesian." It's very "Real Housewives." It's a very--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Well, we're a very different show, you know?
GIBSON JOHNS: I know, and I agree. I agree.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Like, even the boys didn't come to blows last year in their big fight, you know?
GIBSON JOHNS: Right. I think that's what makes it so unusual to see a moment like that even in just the trailer. It's like, oh, wow. Like, it gets to that point, you know what I mean? But I think--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I don't think it had to get to that point.
GIBSON JOHNS: OK.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I don't think it should have. There was literally nothing that--
GIBSON JOHNS: That warranted that.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --warranted it to get to that point.
GIBSON JOHNS: I will say, though, Lindsay, I don't know-- obviously, I don't know what the circumstances were. But I think that what it tells me a little bit is it reinforces that Danielle is a true ride or die for you. Like, whatever happened last summer, Danielle and you have such a true, real friendship, and you're so solid with one another.
I don't know. And I think for me, I saw it last year, Danielle almost had-- she's been around since the beginning-- but she had almost a breakout season last year, I think because she was around the whole time, you know? But I think fans really latched on to Danielle last year, and people--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Well, you got to see more-- you got to see a deeper side to Danielle, you know? You could understand why she was a little bit more absent in previous seasons, because that girl works her ass off. And she works in a very male-dominated field that she has to be on her A-game at all times. So you guys were able to see that last summer in season 5 when you saw more of what she does at a work, career level that makes her who she is.
And yeah, Danielle and I are ride or die. We very much are best friends, and we will do anything for each other. And she's always, always been my sounding board and always has given me such amazing, objective advice. And this summer, she's in a relationship.
So I think you'll see how I sort of return that favor in giving her advice and being there for her, whether it's in her relationship or when it comes to other situations in the house. We think and feel very similarly, Danielle and I, about different things in life. So our friendship is really easy.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. I can tell that.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: We're very bonded.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, and I'm just happy that she was given the space last year to sort of form that connection with the viewers. And I think that it's going to carry through this year. And again, I think she's so great, so I think it's just awesome to have her more solidified within the group, you know?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, for sure.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. So last thing about Austin. Obviously, you famously unfollowed him after "Watch What Happens Live." And just love talking about this. So what can you tell me about where you guys stand now just in your friendship, or relationship, or what have you?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. We still haven't had any huge conversation since everything sort of went down with our friendship. I would like to. I know that he would like to. I was just in Charleston with the "Loverboy" team when they were launching "Loverboy" in Charleston. And we were all together as a group, the "Southern Charm" crew, and the four of us from "Summer House."
So we were around each other, but we didn't have the opportunity to fully have an in-depth conversation that I think this deserves. So we still haven't really spoken. I mean, obviously, he was busy filming. And I'm focused on other things. So I'm sure that the time will come, and we'll eventually have a conversation. And I don't mind.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like you said earlier, I think it's like you guys just-- you guys have such a history of friendship and sometimes more. But that's important. I think it's important to sometimes give those relationships some space to settle when something happens.
And then you'll circle back. And I think it's clearly-- you're both important to one another regardless of what that means, you know what I mean? And I think that's undeniable to me.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. I mean, we'll see what happens when we talk. I'm sure it'll all work out and all be fine. And, you know, I said this a few months ago. I don't know if our friendship will ever go back to the level of best friends that it was, and that's OK. That happens in life.
GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: But we'll see what happens whenever we do talk.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. So the other big question I think everyone likes to ask-- I mean, I've been asked this separately in other podcasts, and I never really know what to say. And I would just say I don't know.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Like, everyone asks you?
GIBSON JOHNS: Yes, literally. --is literally are you and Carl dating right now, and what is your answer to that?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yes, we are.
GIBSON JOHNS: Wow.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah.
GIBSON JOHNS: I'm so happy for you guys. That's amazing.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Thank you. Thanks. I know, it is funny. Like, everybody is asking everyone. It's very, very rare that we get to experience privacy in our dating lives or even a honeymoon phase. [LAUGHS] Like, if you think about it, we're not filming right now, so I didn't feel like I needed to give anyone any sort of update or confirmation on the status of my relationship.
I mean, if you think about it, we're in New York City. You don't really confirm-- even if you're not on TV-- you don't confirm that you're officially with somebody for a few months. So we're no different. And the only difference is that it's very public in our lives.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: And we wanted to keep it private for ourselves to just enjoy each other's company and that new dynamic.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. I mean, that's so exciting. I think a lot of people are gonna be thrilled for both of you.
Because I think obviously, what was it, a couple of seasons ago, when you guys gave it a go, sort of, like, a little bit? And it didn't really work out. But I think he, in particular, was in a very different place in his life
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. But I will say, we both had very different head spaces--
GIBSON JOHNS: Right.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --back then, and that was season four. We were also in the middle of filming, where-- I hate to say it, but-- that is a tough environment to begin dating somebody. There's a lot of opinions, and you're sharing a house with people, and there's a lot of scrutiny. And I think this time around, it's very different. We're both in a very different headspace, and timing is everything. I don't think it would have worked until now for us to give it a go, as you say. [LAUGHS]
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: So yeah, it's exciting, and we're both very, very happy.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, and I think, to me again, that speaks to sort of the importance-- you guys stay in each other's lives regardless of what was happening in your lives in your group. Like, you guys stayed and sort of maintained this really, really close bond. And I think you were really there for him last year when he was going through a lot-- or last season. And I don't know. I think that your connection has always been really clear. So I think it's really-- it's cool to hear that you sort of have committed to one another in that way.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. Yeah. It's so interesting, because even after we tried a couple of years ago, and it didn't work out-- and it took a little bit, but then once we got back to being friends, to then becoming best friends again, we got closer. Which I think was just always-- I don't know.
It was just always-- even just thinking about it now, I'm like, wow, how did we do that? And there is no book, or nobody can really explain to you how to do that. We tried dating. It didn't work out. We were both in a very different headspace.
Then we took a little time apart, then we became friends again. Then we got closer. Then he moved into the building. Then he got sober, and then-- you know, the evolution of our friendship, you know, you guys have had a front row seat to.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, for sure.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: And I think in this new chapter that we are developing, you guys will also see that evolution grow as well.
GIBSON JOHNS: Good. Yeah, and I mean, last thing is not for nothing, but you guys also-- you both live these really unique lifestyles with your space on this show for now six years. And, like, only a certain amount people can really understand that and, I think, fit into that. And I think for you guys to have found a way to make that work-- because, again, this is a huge thing that you guys can relate to one another on, you know what I mean?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, shared experience is a huge reason why it works in a relationship, right? And being able to share this experience with each other is a huge aspect. Because it's not one person trying to explain to another or a significant other getting jealous of the other person's notoriety.
GIBSON JOHNS: Sure.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: We're very much equal. And I think this is the first time ever that I have been able to finally date somebody who is the exact equal as I am. And that's fun, and it's exciting. We started the show together.
And we've been on the exact same amount of time. And although he wasn't in Vermont with us because he wanted to focus on his sobriety-- which was the best decision-- being able to still share this experience is fun and exciting.
GIBSON JOHNS: So exciting. I'm so excited for you. And we mentioned--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: You didn't think I was going to confirm, did you?
GIBSON JOHNS: I didn't. I literally didn't. And I'm like, wow. It's a safe space here, Lindsay. [LAUGHS]
LINDSAY HUBBARD: That's all right. I mean, it's not like we've been super--
GIBSON JOHNS: No, no. I mean, but I do think you guys have-- it's funny, because at some point, I couldn't tell, like, are they just having fun with people by sort of posting some of those kind of cuddly pictures?
It's hard to tell, because you guys have always had a flirty relationship and kind of been close. So I don't know. I think it's great. I think it's great that you guys are going forward with it. I'm excited.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. Well, you'll see. I mean, you'll see as the season goes, obviously. Look, I'm sitting here in episode one, and I get in a fight with Carl. So for me, watching that was pretty uncomfortable.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, I'm sure.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I'm literally in a fight with the guy I'm now dating. And I'm fighting with him about a guy that I used to--
GIBSON JOHNS: Whether you're single or whatever. Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Right.
GIBSON JOHNS: It's kind of a mind [BLEEP] if you will, you know?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Exactly. Exactly. But it was definitely uncomfortable.
GIBSON JOHNS: But I think the moment we see at the end of the episode-- which again, it's about something really serious that you went through, and people will learn about it in the premiere-- but to me, I watched that moment, and I got kind of emotional watching it. Because one, just the nature of it. But two, I thought about last season, how you had been there so much for him when he was going through loss of his brother and just kind of being steadfast in his sobriety, and all that.
And you were really, really there for him. Obviously, a lot of the rest of the house was, too. But you really stood by him, and you were a rock for him. And I think, to see the table flip a little bit, and for him to be there for you, and this conversation to really organically happen at the end of this episode, it just felt-- it just felt so real and so right in that moment to watch that.
And I think again, it spoke to your connection. And I thought that before you even confirmed that you guys are now dating. Just baseline, whether it's romantic or not, you guys have that connection. And that moment really spoke to that.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And having not had shared that moment with Carl until I did was really hard for me. I tried to talk to him literally the day that it happened. But he was so busy with work. He was traveling, and launching "Loverboy" in different states.
And I just didn't-- I knew his mind was-- his capacity to handle my stuff-- I didn't want to burden him with it, so I didn't. But it also was very hard. I tell Carl everything in life, everything. And even now, you know, we still talk about everything. And.
GIBSON JOHNS: Of course.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: And so yeah, so that was very difficult. I felt a lot of relief after having that conversation with him. Like, OK, Danielle knew, but now Carl knows, and I feel better.
GIBSON JOHNS: And yeah, those are the two people that matter the most there. So I'm glad that you felt that. You know, I want to end it on a little bit of a lighter note with some questions about some of the other people in the house. There's obviously a lot of intrigue around Paige and Craig. And I think-- and it was funny to-- I mean, the "Winter House" timing was interesting, because they had sort of publicly confirmed the relationship.
But people were sort of still talking around it. And in "Winter House," they were platonic and nothing happened there. So for you to have experienced "Winter House" with them and then see how their relationship progressed into being romantic, what was your first reaction back when that was happening? Because they seem like they're a great match, but I'm curious, as somebody who's so close to it, what your reaction was.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I mean, I don't know if I had too much of a reaction. You know, I'm a big believer that everyone should-- they deserve happiness. And if Craig makes Paige happy, then I'm all for it. And vice versa, if she makes him happy-- yeah, they were platonic in Vermont.
But he had a girlfriend, and he was getting to know Andrea. Which, you know, that kind of fizzled out. But, you know, as far as Craig and Paige, I don't know. I would hear from Austin when we were on the phone, oh, Paige is in town visiting Craig. I'm like, oh, interesting.
GIBSON JOHNS: Uh-huh. OK.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I think that they're-- they're good for each other from what it seems.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. Yeah, it does seem that way. Yeah. Another big part of the premiere that people will see is Kyle and Amanda don't start off the summer very well at all. And the first night is really-- it's just not good for them.
And a lot kind of comes out. Watching people sort of-- I mean, I guess kind of her closest friends in the house, Paige and Ciara-- sort of be there for her, and talking about where she stands with Kyle, and kind of going into this wedding-- and again, you're really close with Kyle and Amanda. But what's it like sort of watching them kind of still struggle through some of these things when they're kind of going up on the biggest day of their lives? Because again, you're so close to them.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah. I didn't fully understand until I watched it what what exactly was happening or what they had fought about. I woke up the next morning like, oh, god--
GIBSON JOHNS: His suitcase is outside.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I had a conversation with Carl.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: And then I'm finding out that Kyle's luggage was outside. Yeah. I mean, it sucks. It sucks to watch good friends of yours struggle or have conflict in their relationship.
And I know that they want it to work so bad, and we want it to work so bad for them. And it's hard. That first weekend, you're in a new house, emotions are like ah!
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Kyle doesn't go out much in the city, and he's back in the Hamptons. We weren't able to go out last year, last season. So it's difficult. I didn't necessarily know that she-- there was more conflict recently before getting out to the Hamptons. So I'm sort of just learning about certain things as I'm watching it. We are not privy to everything that's going on in everyone's lives--
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, of course.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --despite the fact that we live in the same house.
GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]
LINDSAY HUBBARD: We don't know everything about everyone. So yeah. I think at that moment, we all just want them to work it out and figure it out.
GIBSON JOHNS: And they clearly do--
LINDSAY HUBBARD: We obviously know they got married.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, exactly. They clearly do. Yeah, and it seems like that was an amazing kind of fairy tale, dreamy day. So I'm glad.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: It was so beautiful.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. Yeah, tell me one highlight from that day for you.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Oh, one highlight? I mean, just all of us dancing on the dance floor. And something happened where the music just hit just right and we're all jumping up and down simultaneously--
GIBSON JOHNS: Great feeling.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --which was much fun.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. Yeah. And lastly, we have two new additions to the "Summer-- I guess three new additions. Andrea was, but he was in "Winter House," so we're familiar with him. What can you tell me about Maya and-- is his name Alex?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Alex, yeah.
GIBSON JOHNS: Maya and Alex. What can you tell me about what they might bring to the table? Because again, you've been around to sort of judge the newbies for five or six years now. You know who has the potential. So what can you-- what do you make of them?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah Well, I think that they're both really cool. That is sort of the first impression that I got, that I think that viewers will get. You know, Alex is very strict with his regimen, like working out.
GIBSON JOHNS: I can already tell. [LAUGHS]
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, those arms, they're massive.
GIBSON JOHNS: Making turkey at, like, 10:00 AM. I'm like, huh? [LAUGHS]
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Yeah, but I was pretty quick to break those barriers down and get him to loosen up. So once that happened, he was so much fun to be around. He's really funny, and he's fun.
Maya is just a really cool, super neutral, which I really enjoyed that she sort of stayed more neutral. Whereas in the past, some of the newer girls who came in-- they feel more connected to the younger age females in the house. Yeah. So I don't know. I think that viewers as will like them. They both are really cool and fun to be around.
GIBSON JOHNS: Speaking of-- I mean, a couple of seasons ago, Hannah was a new person in the house. And you guys butt heads over the years. And she's not back this summer. Did you feel her energy not there? Did it feel like a different energy not having her in the house?
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I mean, I will say it was a lighter summer. But there's a lot that led it to being a darker summer last year--
GIBSON JOHNS: Of course.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --a pandemic included. But it was very much an obviously lighter summer--
GIBSON JOHNS: OK.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --that's more fun. And I think it'll be more fun for viewers to watch as well.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah. So tease one more thing for me before we sign off. Season six of "Summer House"-- it's lighter. I know there's a lot of theme parties this year. You're playing the field. I mean, give me one more little tidbit of what people can expect.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I mean, I think it is interesting, because a lot of the dynamics are still there.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: The key and core dynamics of what makes "Summer House" "Summer House" are still there, but it's within different people, you know? Like, you've never quite seen me this single before. And you've never seen Danielle in a relationship. Or Paige-- you've never gotten to know somebody that she's dated. But now, you get to know somebody that she's dating--
GIBSON JOHNS: Totally.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --seriously. And then this is our first wedding. I think we're all so excited to finally get Kyle and Amanda down the aisle. So I think the dynamics are still the same as they've always been, but within different people. Which I think makes it interesting and intriguing, because it's different people experiencing, you know--
GIBSON JOHNS: I think so, too.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: --what others have experienced.
GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, I think so, too. It's the same same, but different. And I think again, it seems like it's getting better every year.
So I'm excited, and I'm excited for everyone to see this premiere. Lindsay, thank you, as always, for taking the time. I love chatting with you every single season.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: I know. I do, too. I miss you.
GIBSON JOHNS: I'm so happy-- I miss you, too. I'm so happy for you and Carl. And again, I'm just-- I admire you so much for what you share in this premiere and just for how open you are.
Because I think a lot of people will be moved by that, and a lot of people will just kind of be endeared to you even more than they already are. Because a lot of people love you. So Lindsay, yeah, thank you so much for taking the time as always.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Thanks, Gibson. You're the best.
GIBSON JOHNS: Love you. Yeah, I'll talk soon.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: Love you.
GIBSON JOHNS: We'll talk soon. Yeah.
LINDSAY HUBBARD: OK, bye.
GIBSON JOHNS: Thanks.
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