12 Years Later, Colbert Takes Rumsfeld to Task on Iraq

On The Late Show, Stephen Colbert sat down with former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. In the first half of the interview, they discussed Rumsfeld’s new app. Yes, you read that right: the former U.S. secretary of defense has created an iPhone app on which you can play a game of solitaire developed by Winston Churchill. In the second half, Colbert dug in to see if he could garner any info from Rumsfeld as to whether he, as part of the Bush administration, really believed the Iraqi government was supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorists. Colbert artfully used Rumsfeld’s line of thinking, leading him through the logic of “there are known knowns,” which the then secretary of defense was quoted as saying during a 2002 news briefing. To cushion the blow of the hard talk, Colbert included, “I don’t think anybody made up the belief that there were WMD; that is cynicism beyond what I would ever want to think of my government. I believe that everybody believed they were there but there was no hard proof that they were there.” Rumsfeld’s answers conveyed no new information, yet he delivered a line in response to the “known knowns” that seemed to surprise both himself and Colbert.

Colbert got political in a different way last week when he switched seats with Black Lives Matter activist DeRay McKesson.

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