New 'Summer House' star Sam Feher on finding her footing amid OGs' drama

Sam Feher found friends and love on her first season of "Summer House." Gibson Johns interviews the new addition to the Bravo hit about all things Season 7, including her bond with fellow newbie Gabby Prescod, being able to form friendships with both Lindsay Hubbard and Danielle Olivera and how she seems them moving forward. They also discuss her romance with "Winter House" star Kory Keefer, Mya Allen pulling her aside about her delivery style, her thoughts on Gabby's inability to connect with Ciara Miller and more.

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GIBSON JOHNS: Hi, guys. Welcome back to "We Should Talk," a pop culture interview series from In The Know. I'm your host, Gibson Johns. And today on the podcast, we have Sam Feher, from "Summer House," one of three new additions to this season. And I think Sam's been great. And it seems like from the midseason trailer and from what we talked about in this interview that Sam's going to have more sort of breakout moments in this back half of the season.

But I really love her energy. And I loved getting some time with her because sometimes I get the opportunity to interview newbies at the beginning of a season, their first season. And there's really not that much to say other than just introducing them and asking about their background, which is interesting. But you know, you want to hear about their time on the show. So I feel like at this point, there's some stuff for us to sink our teeth into.

Sam and Gabby were fast friends, as the two women and they came in together. And they're still really, really, essentially, best friends. And they were able to navigate this group in a really, really kind of shrewd way because they're able to, you know, have these friendships with Danielle and Lindsay, despite, you know, they came into the season still best friends. And then they have their falling out.

There's a big divide that happens. And you know, Gabby and Sam were able to work both sides and, I think, in a really genuine way. So her perspective on that whole situation was really pertinent. So we talked a lot about that, also her friendship with Gabby and why that connection is so strong. And then also she weighed in on Gabby and Ciara's kind of tense situation, of like really not being able to connect so far and sort of why that is, whether Sam felt that same way with Ciara.

And sort of we talked through that a little bit. And then I think one of Sam's first big-- not big moments but one of the moments that kind of stayed top of mind with her from this first half of the season was when Mya pulled her aside off-camera, but there was still a hot mic, so we got to hear it, to tell her that she-- like, to sort of give her some feedback about how she talks a lot.

I read it as well-meaning and sort of just her trying to sort of like give her some advice and sort of warn her. I think some people online didn't take it that way. But Sam definitely took it that way. So it was interesting to hear about that from her. And then, you know, as the midseason trailer shows us, Corey from "Winter House" shows up. And Sam and him hit it off, to say the least.

And they're actually still dating now. So we talked a lot about that instant connection that they had, why it was so great, and, you know, how it's going now, which it seems to be going really well. And so we have another couple to [CHUCKLES] be obsessed with. So yeah, Sam is really great. And I think that she has a lot of promise as a reality star. She's super open. She's super candid.

And she's-- and she's fun to watch on TV. So keep listening to my interview with Sam Feher, from "Summer House." Tune in to "Summer House" on Mondays at 9:00 PM on Bravo. And please rate, review, and subscribe to "We Should Talk" on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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All right, so we are here with Sam Feher, from "Summer House," one of the three new additions to the show this season. Sam, it's been great watching you so far. You're a showstopper. You're great. You're a good addition to this house. How's it going? How's this experience so far for you?

SAM FEHER: Well, thank you for saying that because I will say it is a little bit cringey to watch yourself do stuff on TV, like--

GIBSON JOHNS: Yep.

SAM FEHER: --you know, you always see videos of yourself when you're, like, talking to your camera or, like, on FaceTime. But seeing yourself completely unfiltered, out of body, is a whole other level. So I will say it's really fun. Like, I've gotten to meet a lot of great people and, like, do really cool things as a result of this. But that is the weirdest part of all of it.

GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm, definitely. And so I was doing-- I did a little bit of a deep dive on you before this interview. And some old "Cosmo" videos came up of you when you were the assistant to the chief of-- to the editor-in-chief of "Cosmo."

SAM FEHER: Yep.

GIBSON JOHNS: And you had a little video series, which was super fun. But I'm-- and you were great on camera back then. And that was probably like-- that was several years ago. Was that your first big taste of sort of doing something on camera? And did that whet your appetite for this? Or is this something you always sort of wanted to be doing in some capacity?

SAM FEHER: So I was an actor as a child. So I am definitely no stranger to the stage, to the cameras. I have done a little bit of, like, hosting stuff, kind of like what Paige does. So you know, I've-- and then I started doing, like, social media stuff. So I'm very used to, like, being around cameras and being around production and being on the set.

But it is definitely an entirely different experience when you're expected to, like, forget that's all there and just, like, go about your normal life. That's a very different experience. Honestly, one of the things that was the most surprising to me about this summer was how quickly you get used to that.

I mean, the first moment of me getting out of the car at this house late at night on, like, a Friday, like, to film for the very first time, I was, like, staring right at, like-- I'm getting out of the car. And there's a camera right here. And I was like, where do I look that's not directly there?

GIBSON JOHNS: Totally.

SAM FEHER: And then, like, literally, by the next morning, you forgot they're there. And you find yourself doing something, like, really stupid. And you're, like, oh, dang it. [LAUGHS]

GIBSON JOHNS: There's also the hidden cameras in the rooms, which also complicate it as well. [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: Yes. I mean, I will say, like, that you know that you're signing up for 24/7 surveillance. But watching that back is a whole different kind of crazy than, you know, watching the big cameras.

GIBSON JOHNS: Uh-huh.

SAM FEHER: It's just you really, really forget those are there. And you're just doing your thing. And you're like, wow, all of America is watching me, like, change right now. Like, that's it.

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GIBSON JOHNS: Is there something that you've said or done, yourself, that when you watch it, you're like, you know, maybe next season I won't be doing something like that?

SAM FEHER: [LAUGHS] Yeah. Well, so I will say, sometimes I watch the episode with my parents. And I should definitely learn to watch those before I watch them with my parents to prep myself. But you know, the other day, we saw the episode where we're at the winery. And Kyle's like, what's the easiest orgasm you've ever had?

And I just piped right up to let everybody know that I love it when a guy spits in my mouth. And I'm sitting next to my dad-- my poor dad-- and he goes, that's so nice.

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: And I'm like, you know what, like, at least they're good sports about it. I mean, I prepped them going into this. I was like, this is going to capture me when I'm drunk, when I'm sleeping, when I'm naked, when I'm clothed, when I'm dating, when I'm everything. And I was like, you know, I'm happy to, like, screen the episodes. But I'm very close with my parents. They're cool. They're young. They were like, whatever.

GIBSON JOHNS: They have to get it.

SAM FEHER: Like, this is crazy. So do your thing.

GIBSON JOHNS: It's so funny, that comment-- that comment, in particular, like, people actually really loved that you shared that too because I think that, like, there's this sort of craving this season because there is so much, like, friendship OG drama that's like pretty heavy. And it's pretty-- it can get pretty dark.

And, like, I think that one thing that's sort of, like, people are craving this summer is-- this season is some more, like-- some more sex, some more-- some more hookups, some more, like-- some more of that energy and that you're bringing some of that. And I know that we might see something later this season between you and a certain someone. So I think that people really actually liked that you shared that detail, even though it kind of might feel cringe for you. Like, people liked it, your openness.

SAM FEHER: Yeah. Well, I think, at the end of the day, like, we're really all just being ourselves on this show. And like, at first, as soon as I said it, I think I looked directly into a camera and go, oh, my god. And Paige is sitting across from me. She goes, I'm into that [BLEEP] too. And I was like, thank you. OK.

GIBSON JOHNS: OK, power in numbers.

SAM FEHER: We're people here.

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: Yeah, so it's really funny to, like, watch those moments back and be like, damn, really, no filter. But, OK.

GIBSON JOHNS: Right, totally. So I mean, you're coming into this season. And there's a really interesting dynamic among the women, that we come in, and it's Lindsay and Danielle and the other girls. And there is that divide from years past. And then you and Gabby come in as two newbies. And obviously, Lindsay and Danielle-- that gets really complicated.

And there's a divide that happens there, as Danielle goes towards the other side of things and-- but you and Gabby didn't really seem to have to pick a side. You guys seemed to kind of be able to strike up friendships on either side of the aisle, quote-unquote. How are you guys able to do that, do you think?

SAM FEHER: I think, for us, it's because we-- it's not fair for us to comment on the history of these friendships before we arrived, right? Like, everything, for us, until the moment we arrive, is just hearsay. And that doesn't stand up in a court of law. I know. My mom's a lawyer. So--

GIBSON JOHNS: There we go.

SAM FEHER: But, like, we are out here making our opinions based on what we're seeing, what we're experiencing in real time. And I think, you know, if anyone ever asked us to comment on history, we'd just be like, we weren't here, like, you said this. This person said this. We take everything with a grain of salt and try to come in with kind of a fresh, you know, outlook on it.

And we have really had the benefit, both Gabby and I-- I can speak for both of us on this-- where we have been able to form friendships with both of these women. And we've gotten very close to both of them. And some of that happened when they were still best friends and when they were still good. You know, in early episodes, you'll see, like, Lindsay and Danielle have a little FaceTime.

And she's like, don't you love Sam? Like, I knew you would. And, like, it just goes to show, like, we all have stuff in common. We could all be really best friends. So you know, as we look towards, hopefully, a resolution, you know, Gabby and I are looking forward to, like, having the four of us, like, running around the Hamptons together.

GIBSON JOHNS: Totally. Yeah, it's interesting because you did get a taste of what that really special friendship-- not was-- I think, is. But just right now, it's not.

SAM FEHER: Yeah.

GIBSON JOHNS: But it also seems like you and Lindsay are particularly close. I feel like you guys really do hit it off. Like, I feel like-- one of you, at some point, kind of referred to the other as, like, just like the Mini-Me version or just sort of the-- like, you're very similar. And you know, I'm curious because I also-- I love Lindsay and Danielle. But there's this-- there's this narrative that gets pushed about Lindsay, of just not being a girl's girl, quote-unquote.

And you, clearly, were able to strike a really special friendship with her this summer regardless of that narrative. What do you make of that, considering that you were able to create a great friendship with her?

SAM FEHER: You know, I keep wondering what the heck Lindsay ever did to everybody to make them all hate her so much. I mean, there have been-- I've been kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop, like what do I not know about her--

GIBSON JOHNS: Right.

SAM FEHER: --that's so bad, that's so evil? And I really, like, haven't had any personal, real-life experience with anything like that. You know, I will say, like, watching her and Danielle navigate this fight has been a little bit hard because, you know, I think it's bringing out, you know, things in their friendship that maybe they've buried for a long time, that are kind of coming out.

But that's for them to deal with and to experience. And you know, I haven't-- to me, like, Lindsay has done nothing but take care of me. She's acted like such a big sister. And I can say that wholeheartedly about Danielle too. I think, you know, we all know you don't see everything. But Danielle and I have a very close friendship. She, you know, picks me up when I'm feeling down. She-- her number one thing in a friendship is loyalty.

And I promise you, like, that's where she stands. So you know, it-- I really-- I don't think Lindsay is evil. I don't think Lindsay is some big bad guy. I think she's a normal person. And you know, just being in all the drama because you have a big personality, and you like to get involved in things, is different from, like, being the reason for all the drama.

GIBSON JOHNS: Right.

SAM FEHER: Or you know, just because your name is in a headline, doesn't mean you caused all the [BLEEP]. So--

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, for sure.

SAM FEHER: --I think she gets a bad rap sometimes. And I don't think it's--

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: --always fair.

GIBSON JOHNS: Definitely. So given that-- given that you do have such a great relationship with both of them, honestly, like, were you aware-- I mean, we see this week that she's going to-- Lindsay is going to kind of come to you and kind of try to talk some of that girls' night out and have some of your thoughts. Were you wary at all to even express some of-- I don't know-- your thoughts on the situation, given that, like, you were cultivating these friendships?

And how do you go about some of those moments even now where you hear things from both sides? It's just it's hard to play-- it's hard to be in the middle even though I know it's a-- it's a worthwhile position to be in. It's just-- it must be tough.

SAM FEHER: Totally. I think there's something unique about what we do filming this whole thing that really forces you to be in a perpetual state of, like, I would never say something behind Daniel's back that I wouldn't say to her face--

GIBSON JOHNS: Totally.

SAM FEHER: --because it's going to be on TV in 10 minutes.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: So guess what, you're going to know anyway. And I will say, like, in tonight's episode, I-- there's a spot where I'm talking to Lindsay about it. I'm like, how are you feeling? And you know, that whole conversation doesn't make the episode. Things need to be cut, you know, for time and for clarity. But you know, I-- it's important to me.

Like, I've been talking to Danielle about tonight's episode, saying, I want you to know, like, that there are other things I have thoughts about and other feelings that I have that aren't necessarily portrayed in this exact conversation. And I was like, ultimately, I own everything I said. All of those words came out of my mouth. But you know about our friendship. And you know where we're at in real life.

And you know that my goal for all of this is to find a resolution. Like, I want us all to be best friends. I love you guys together when you're good. And you know, ultimately, my hope is that my friendship with Danielle and my friendship with Lindsay can coexist until they have their own resolution.

GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm.

SAM FEHER: And then we can all, you know, party in the Hamptons together.

GIBSON JOHNS: Which, knock on wood, is going to happen. I'm team-- I'm team reconcile.

SAM FEHER: Me too.

GIBSON JOHNS: So I interviewed Gabby a couple weeks ago. And she just spoke so highly of you and how much of a, like, instant connection that you two had as the two new women in the house and that that has been maintained and that you're just really great friends. And given that-- given that you guys were kind of, like, buddy-buddy this summer, what do you-- what do you make about her sort of struggle to connect with Ciara and vice versa?

Like, what do you make of that? What did you witness in person last summer that kind of informed what was going on there?

SAM FEHER: Ciara will be the first person to say this to you herself. She's extremely guarded. And Gabby and I are not like that. Gabby and I are kind of like-- we always say, like-- I always joke, like, innocent until proven guilty. Like, I love you until you give me a reason to not love you.

GIBSON JOHNS: Sure, yeah, yeah.

SAM FEHER: So, like, I say, like, I love you, to everyone all the time. And people are like, oh, that means you don't mean it. No, I love you. I want to be your best friend. I want to, like, snuggle with you and, you know, make you mine. But, like, if you are not interested in receiving that, then, like, fine. Do you. And I think, you know, it's really unfortunate because

Gabby is one of the best friends I've ever had. She's extremely loyal. She will, like, sit there with you. If you are spiraling about something, she never gets tired of being your friend.

GIBSON JOHNS: I love that.

SAM FEHER: And it is something so special. And I'm so grateful for our friendship. And I just was a little bit disappointed because I think Ciara made a very early decision on who Gabby was as a person, based on, like, what she had gathered from her observations. But there wasn't a ton of effort there to kind of see what was beyond that.

And that judgment, like, persisted then throughout, you know, the course of the summer. And I just know that if she knew Gabby the way I knew Gabby and if she sat there, you know, in the middle of the night with Gabby, like I do, that. there's so much more to her to, like, know and love. And I just think it precludes what could have been a great friendship.

GIBSON JOHNS: Hmm. And does that-- is that your experience with Ciara as well? Like, do you feel like you have-- were able to connect with her? Or do you kind of feel the same as Gabby?

SAM FEHER: I had a lot of trouble in the beginning connecting with Ciara. Again, I bring the love to you.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: Like, it is hand delivery, white glove service. Like, I want to hug you. I want to, like, know your deepest, darkest. Like, I want to, like, tell you my deepest, darkest. That, for me, is how I connect with people. And Ciara has, like, a very different way of approaching relationships.

GIBSON JOHNS: Right.

SAM FEHER: And so I, in the beginning, was like, oh, my god. This girl doesn't like me. Like, this girl instantly-- I'm like, she thinks I'm annoying. And maybe she did. I mean, listen, that happens.

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But you know, it took a little bit of warming up. But, like, I mean, you'll see there are little things throughout the show where I'm just kind of like, aw, that's us, like, loving each other. Like, she'll come and, like, kiss me on the forehead before she leaves for the-- like, at the end of the weekend.

GIBSON JOHNS: OK, that's big.

SAM FEHER: Stuff like that.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, little things like that, yeah.

SAM FEHER: Yeah, and she, like, warmed up to me and opened up to me about some things that were going on in her life this summer that I think she and Gabby didn't have the chance to connect on. And so I think, you know, I had a little bit of an easier time connecting with her than Gabby did.

But in fairness, you know, Ciara didn't share with me any, like, negative judgments, necessarily, that persisted throughout the summer. And I think she just-- we had a little bit more of a concerted effort between us, I think, to build a connection.

GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm.

SAM FEHER: Whereas she and Gabby didn't really have that opportunity.

GIBSON JOHNS: Right, totally. And you know, when you're new to one of these shows, I think-- especially you're doing interviews like this-- it's-- you have to kind of like latch on to certain things that you kind of be able to break out with or that stand out. And one of those early moments for you was kind of this weird interaction with you and Mya, where, you know, she talked about how you-- that you're kind of a blabbermouth, or that was what she was telling you. And then we didn't see you guys.

We heard you get emotional about that. And it was kind of just a really interesting kind of really early moment to have, I think, on the show. And I'm curious what you thought of how that played out and how you think about that moment now.

SAM FEHER: So one of the things that I always say about this, because a lot of people want to know, like, what really happened, is it was, to me, like, very almost like insightful that this was, like, the one thing that she wanted to talk to me about--

GIBSON JOHNS: Right.

SAM FEHER: --because that's something that I've heard my whole entire life, something that has been such a deep-rooted and long-term insecurity of mine. And I was like, there are so many buttons with me that you could push. But there's only one that will make me cry. And it's that one. And I think a lot of people are like, that was so mean of her. She didn't have to do that.

But I'll say, until the day I die, there's only one room in that camera-- or in that house that doesn't have cameras. And she picked that one to pull me aside in. And it's not a coincidence.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, it's telling.

SAM FEHER: Mya is so supportive of me. You know, she went through this newbie thing only a year ago.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: Since the show started airing, I'm getting texts from Mya all the time. How are you doing? How are you feeling about this? Like, she is supportive. And she's a good friend to me. And so even in the moment, like, maybe you had to be-- maybe you had to be there--

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: --which no one was.

GIBSON JOHNS: Not even a camera, right.

SAM FEHER: Right, exactly. Like, maybe you had to be there. But, like, from the very moment that it happened, I knew that it wasn't antagonistic. It was, I'm trying to make sure you have a heads up of what's going on, like how people are feeling and talking about this because if-- like, I can then make educated, informed decisions about, like, how I'm behaving and how I'm talking to people. And I think she didn't want me to end up in a situation where, like, I had to find out in a harder way--

GIBSON JOHNS: Totally.

SAM FEHER: --or maybe a less-nice way.

GIBSON JOHNS: You know, I think-- I also think that there were sort of a read between the lines there, of like, we're on TV. And this is how this show is filmed.

SAM FEHER: Totally.

GIBSON JOHNS: And be careful with just-- just be aware of sort of how you're carrying yourself. Not that, like, talking a lot is a bad thing-- is a bad way to carry yourself. But I think that there was sort of that element of it as well.

SAM FEHER: Totally. And sometimes, honestly, I need to hear that. Like, I try to be self aware all the time. But when you're drinking, and you're in that environment, and you're all excited, like, it's very easy to kind of, like, lose track of what's going on and just get excited and, like, be talking.

But, like, if I'm talking over people, if I'm, like, dominating the conversation, like, it's important for me to-- like, I want to be checked, to make sure that, like, this feels like an equal friendship between me and other people and I'm not just, like, taking over all the time.

GIBSON JOHNS: Totally.

SAM FEHER: So I think, too, like, it's a helpful check for me in, like-- and a lesson in self awareness.

GIBSON JOHNS: Mhm. So you know, the mid-season trailer dropped today. And I was at the summer house from your party. And I saw you getting a little cozy with a certain someone named Kory.

SAM FEHER: Oh, sneaky.

GIBSON JOHNS: So you know, and we see-- we see you guys-- you talk about it in the trailer. So it's a thing that happens at some point this summer. Where-- does that-- is that an instant spark between you two guys? We saw him on "Winter House." But clearly, he kind of comes in with a bang this summer.

SAM FEHER: Yeah, I was instantly drawn to him. I mean, forget the way he looks. Like, that's a good start for me. But just his energy is, like, enormous.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: It fills a space. It fills a room. And I think you can even read that on camera, right?

GIBSON JOHNS: Definitely.

SAM FEHER: Like, he definitely comes in hot. And, like, that's usually me. Like, I'm usually running into a room, being like, this is my house now. And I, like-- he's like the sun. Like, people want to be in his, like-- around him, like. Like, he breathes life into a room.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, it's easy to see that for sure.

SAM FEHER: Yeah, and you can feel it, like, when you're there. Like, I always, like, joke. Like, the first half of the summer, there was a lot of kind of like grueling, hard conversations between long-time friends and, like, really, like, hard stuff. And I'm always like, Kory, like, brought summer to the Hamptons.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: Like, it changed the trajectory of what we were doing, I think. And for me, like, that is what I'm drawn to. And I think, you know, we kind of found a little bit of that energy match in each other. And it was just so organic, so easy. It's like not something you have to work for.

GIBSON JOHNS: Oh, yeah. That's-- I mean, again, I'm excited to see that because I think that that's-- having that sort of element to the show it's been missing for the first seven episodes. And I think that having some of that, moving forward, is going to bring-- summer should be fun. You know, it should bring some of that fun-- that fun back.

SAM FEHER: And Kory's fun.

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS] Kory seems very fun, exactly.

SAM FEHER: [LAUGHS]

GIBSON JOHNS: So is that something that we're going to see, like, prolonged with you two?

SAM FEHER: Yes.

GIBSON JOHNS: OK.

SAM FEHER: For the, you know, next several months of television, you will see us start to develop a relationship. And you know, in the beginning, it was kind of like, what is this is? Is it casual because, like, we're not sure we trust this guy.

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: Is it, you know, like, am I going to need to, like, avoid getting hurt? But very quickly, I felt very safe with him. And that's unusual for me. But I-- like, from the very beginning, I felt like not only did he not, like, mind that I was, like, big and loud and all over the place, like, he loved it. And it gave me permission to be, like, the me that I'm most happy, like, in, like the skin that I'm most comfortable in.

GIBSON JOHNS: Hmm, that's so nice.

SAM FEHER: Yeah, it's really-- it was really special. And I always say, I feel so lucky that we have all of this, like, immortalized. Like, who in a relationship gets to look back at, like, the first time they met, the first kiss, like all of these amazing moments just, like, timestamped on the internet forever.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah, it's really nice.

SAM FEHER: That's really special.

GIBSON JOHNS: Totally. So are you guys still together? Are you still dating?

SAM FEHER: Yeah.

GIBSON JOHNS: That's awesome.

SAM FEHER: Yeah.

GIBSON JOHNS: That's awesome, Sam. It's like-- it's kind of like finding love in a hopeless place, you know? It's like--

SAM FEHER: No, literally.

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: Yeah, I mean, I kissed a lot of frogs in my day and, like, even in the summer. And then you know, I think, after that-- you know, after Tim kind of like ghosted and, like, I was like, OK, what's wrong with this guy? There was like kind of a week where I was like, that's it. I'm doing a hard reset on my dating life.

GIBSON JOHNS: Sure, sure.

SAM FEHER: I need to, like, figure out what I'm doing. I'm going to be single. I'll keep dating my roster. And then Kory walks in. And everything changes.

GIBSON JOHNS: That's wild. It's truly wild.

SAM FEHER: Yeah.

GIBSON JOHNS: So I mean, before I let you go, I do have to ask-- another person that you brought around, Josh, went viral--

SAM FEHER: Oh, yeah.

GIBSON JOHNS: --for the Madonna of it all. He was-- I think, like, the week before, he had been on "Summer House." And then Madonna posts a picture with him or something.

SAM FEHER: [LAUGHS]

GIBSON JOHNS: What did you-- what was your instant reaction to that? Were you like, oh, my god, now I'm, like, spit sisters with Madonna?

SAM FEHER: Yeah, well, I was like, first of all, who gets to say, like, that's the coolest thing that's ever happened to a guy I rejected.

GIBSON JOHNS: [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: Like, mostly those guys are like, oh, well, that sucks. Now this guy has got Madonna-- I'm, like, jealous of him. I was like, oh, OK. I was like, cool. Do you get, like, private performances? Like, what are the perks that come with that? But I think, you know, Josh is such a good guy. Like, we're friends. We were DM'ing the other day. And you know, I was just like, if this is true, you are a baller, sir. Like, that is badass. Like, I-- like, who gets to say, like, Madonna wanted my leftovers?

GIBSON JOHNS: You took it-- you're taking it in stride. I think that's the best way to take it.

SAM FEHER: Yeah, this is the cool-- this is one of the cooler things that's happened to me in my dating life.

GIBSON JOHNS: It's amazing.

SAM FEHER: [LAUGHS]

GIBSON JOHNS: It's like what you said earlier about Lindsay, how, like, just because your name is in the headline, doesn't mean that you're part of the drama. Like, your name was, like, in these headlines because he's now with-- it's just funny. [LAUGHS]

SAM FEHER: I was honored. I was like, I can't believe you included me in the story. Thank you for addressing that I was here first. Cool.

GIBSON JOHNS: Right. But also, the timing was so crazy. I feel like the episode had just aired, you know?

SAM FEHER: Literally, I was like, OK, you've got a really good publicist or that the universe is looking out for you or something.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yep, totally.

SAM FEHER: [LAUGHS]

GIBSON JOHNS: And then last question for you. You know, you've experienced filming. You're now experiencing airing-- it airing back. But the last sort of big beast to tackle is the reunion. And that's just-- it's a whole other situation you bring up-- again, you drudge up the past. And we talk about things even more. What are you most looking forward to, either for yourself or for another one of the relationships in the house at the reunion to hopefully be resolved?

SAM FEHER: I mean, listen, top of mind for everyone, I think, is Danielle and Lindsay's friendship. That is something that has been weighing on all of us as a group and, particularly, I think, me and Gabby because we're friends with both of these--

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: --ladies. And we love them so much. And they love each other so much. So that is top of mind for hoping that gets resolved at the reunion. I think, for me, like, I'm just excited to be out in the world with Kory and get to kind of show people what we're like because you watch us kind of form this bond together--

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: --and then the summer ends. And you know, we have a lot-- like, we visit each other. We do New Year's Eve together. We do Valentine's Day together. And you guys don't get to see that because it happens after the summer ends. But you know, we're in a place right now where, like, I'm leaving this summer, being, like, I don't know what we're going to be. Maybe we'll visit each other. And now I'm coming to the reunion, and I'm like, he's is my boyfriend.

GIBSON JOHNS: Right.

SAM FEHER: Like, that feels cool.

GIBSON JOHNS: Yeah.

SAM FEHER: And, like, we're just-- we're happy. Like, we have fun together. So I'm excited to, like, hopefully bring some of that, like, light, happy energy to the reunion and let people kind of see where we're at now because it's really special for us.

GIBSON JOHNS: I think that will be welcome energy. I think people are going to be excited to see you guys. And yeah, I mean-- and you know, the reunion, it can go so many different directions. And it's-- I think we're all hoping for that one direction. But--

SAM FEHER: Yes.

GIBSON JOHNS: --we'll see, you know?

SAM FEHER: We are. I think, you know, I have faith that it's going to all work out.

GIBSON JOHNS: Good, good. Well, Sam, this is so much fun to get to talk to you. Again, I'm having you on the show. I can't wait for the rest of this season. And hopefully, see you around for another one this coming summer.

SAM FEHER: Yes, and tap me at the premiere next time.

GIBSON JOHNS: I will. I will.

SAM FEHER: Let me know. [LAUGHS]

GIBSON JOHNS: I will. Thank you so much.

SAM FEHER: Nice to meet you. Bye.

GIBSON JOHNS: You, too.

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