Former New York mayor and current counsel to Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, joined Cuomo Prime Time on Wednesday, but not to nonsensically defend the president against accusations of Russia collusion or obstruction of justice, as has been the trend lately. Instead, Giuliani was defending himself against a claim in Bob Woodward’s new book, Fear: Trump in the White House. In the book, Woodward claims that an anonymous source told him that Trump chastised Giuliani for his weak defense of the then candidate after the release of the Access Hollywood tape in which Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women.
According to the book, Trump said to Giuliani, “Rudy, you're a baby. I’ve never seen a worse defense of me in my life. They took your diaper off right there. You're like a little baby that needed to be changed. When are you going to be a man?"
Giuliani had quite a different recollection of the encounter. In fact, Giuliani’s recollection was quite glowing…for Giuliani. Giuliani said that they had held the campaign plane just for him, and that the staff applauded when he got on, and Trump welcomed him with high praise and open arms. Giuliani said, “The president stood up, said, ‘Mayor, you weren’t’ tough enough.’ And then he laughed and he said, ‘You did a great job. Thank you. Nobody could have done what you did.’” And things only got better for Giuliani from there. “He called me over. He put his arm around me. He put me close and he whispered in my ear about how much courage I have. I won’t tell you exactly what he said,” Giuliani explained, emphatically adding, “That’s exactly what happened, 100%”
Woodward claims to have tapes of the sources he used for his book. Well, Giuliani has sources of his own, eight, in fact. Unfortunately, two of those sources might not be the best for credible information on the matter. Giuliani told Cuomo he’d tell him his sources “off the record and maybe on the record at some point.” Giuliani offered to give a couple, but Cuomo saw through that, saying, “Well, the president’s not going to talk to me, and your security guy’s compromised as a source.” Giuliani’s face shown that those were likely the sources he was going to name.
On top of Woodward’s book, to make matters worse, an anonymous senior White House official released a scathing op-ed in the New York Times on Wednesday that spoke of a resistance within the administration. Giuliani had a few choice words for that individual that, oddly enough, are some of the words that have been used countless times to describe the president himself.
“This guy is obviously an unhinged guy,” Giuliani said. “A guy without many morals, without any principle.”