You know Bethenny Frankel from Real Housewives of New York, as well as from all the stuff that she's tried to sell you since being on that show.
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And you know Martha Stewart, who's iconic for a thousand reasons and has also tried to sell you a bunch of stuff over the years.
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What you probably didn't know is that they apparently hate each other.
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Bethenny mentioned it all during a recent episode of her Just B with Bethenny Frankel podcast, in which she revealed that she and Martha almost worked together as well.
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"We're definitely not friends, but we almost did this TV project together despite the fact that she can't stand me," Bethenny said.
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"And I can't really stand her either."
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"I've always respected her work ethic," Bethenny said of Martha, "and that she's a ball-buster going for it her own way, and whether or not she'll admit it or not, she feels the same way about me."
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Bethenny also explained that the bad blood between the two kicked off when she appeared on the spinoff of The Apprentice that Martha hosted back in 2005.
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"What she said to me when she fired me was insane," Bethenny said while recalling what happened after she made it to the show's final round.
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"She said, 'Bethenny, you're pushy, you're a show-off and you feel the need to make a physical impression which is not entirely necessary at Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia.'"
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"Oh yeah, she hated me. She hated me."
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Bethenny also said that she ran into Martha at a party in St. Barts after production wrapped — and Martha kept the zingers flying in her direction.
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Bethenny claimed that Martha introduced her to a friend before saying, "'This is Bethenny, she was on my show but she didn't win, so she's mad at me.'"
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"I looked at her and said, 'Martha, I'm not mad at you. You're like someone I used to date that I'm still in love with,'" Bethenny claimed to have said.
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"That was that, and it was icy."
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But wait — there's more. So, after the season aired, tabloids dug up an old independent film that Bethenny starred in, which included a topless scene that she filmed.
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Bethenny said that having her past dug up felt pretty bad, and it only felt worse after running into Martha again.
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"I see her at a restaurant and I sit down next to her and she goes, 'Oh, Bethenny, I just saw your movie,'" she recalled. "The movie was from years ago...for her to say that was the sickest, sickest statement anyone's ever said."
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"So I say back to her, 'Oh really Martha? Well I just got an insider stock tip.'"
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Y i k e s. Bethenny also noted that Martha's been a guest on her podcast before, so who knows what the real deal is. Maybe Martha will comment herself! We'll see.
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Listen to Bethenny's claims on the podcast episode right here.
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