Sean Penn tells Sean Hannity 'There are a lot of reasons I don’t trust you'

Two-time Academy Award-winner Sean Penn joined Hannity on Tuesday to speak about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Penn was in Ukraine filming a documentary the day the country was invaded, and has since been back and seen the devastation firsthand.

Sean Hannity began what turned out to be a lengthy, civil conversation, despite political differences between the two, by recalling their first conversation. Hannity called Penn to invite him on the show to discuss Ukraine but did not originally get the response he may have expected. According to both Penn and Hannity, the first thing Penn did was tell Hannity that he doesn't trust him.

"Is there a reason you didn’t trust me?" Hannity asked while laughing. "Yeah," Penn replied, "There's a lot of reasons I don't trust you."

Hannity had a hard time letting that go, and the issue of trust would come up again. But Penn said he didn't get hung up on his lack of trust for Hannity because what’s happening in Ukraine is too important.

"I don't think that I've got time to indulge my lack of trust, which becomes a petty thing as people, and babies, are being vaporized," Penn said. "And that these people are fighting for the very dreams that are the aspirations of all of us Americans. We talked about that, too, and we agreed on that."

Penn spoke about first meeting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky last fall, months before the invasion when Hannity once again broached the issue of trust.

"It's interesting," Penn said. "We had met initially on a Zoom call back…" "Did you trust him?" Hannity cut in, "A lot more than me."

Penn explained that that baggage goes back a long time to when Hannity called him an "enemy of the state" in 2007.

Hannity gave it one more shot at the end of the interview, asking why Penn still didn’t trust him. So Penn used an analogy to sum up their situation.

"You know what happens is that there’s a lot of physical therapy necessary after a big car accident," Penn said. "You don’t get it all done in a day."

Video Transcript

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SEAN HANNITY: I said, I'm interested in the work that you're doing and why you were there even before the war started and this documentary you're doing. Do you remember what you first said to me?

SEAN PENN: I do.

SEAN HANNITY: What did you say?

SEAN PENN: I said that I don't trust you.

[HANNITY LAUGHS]

SEAN HANNITY: Is there a reason you didn't trust me?

SEAN PENN: Yeah, there's a lot of reasons I don't trust you.

KYLIE MAR: Academy Award-winner Sean Penn joined Hannity Tuesday to talk about the Russian invasion of Ukraine when the issue of trust came up. Penn was in Ukraine filming a documentary when Russia invaded and has since been back and seen the devastation firsthand. Penn believes what's happening in Ukraine is too important to be hung up on trust.

SEAN PENN: I don't think that I've got time to indulge my lack of trust, which it becomes a petty thing as people and babies are being vaporized, and that these people are fighting for the very dreams, the-- the aspiration of all of us Americans. And we talked about that too.

SEAN HANNITY: We do. We don't want compensation.

SEAN PENN: And we agreed on that.

KYLIE MAR: Penn spoke about first meeting Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, last fall, months before the invasion. And Hannity, once again, broached the issue of trust.

SEAN PENN: We had met initially on a Zoom call back-- a couple--

SEAN HANNITY: Did you trust him a lot more than me.

SEAN PENN: I was really interested to see who he was.

SEAN HANNITY: It's easy.

SEAN PENN: And-- and I didn't have the baggage with him I have with you. But--

KYLIE MAR: Hannity soon found out that the baggage Penn spoke of goes back more than 15 years.

SEAN HANNITY: What is the baggage? We never met before. Go ahead.

SEAN PENN: Well, actually, I have-- I have a badge--

SEAN HANNITY: A television set.

SEAN PENN: No, there's a badge of honor at my house. I've got the full screen that I dominate as an enemy of the state with you were in the foreground.

SEAN HANNITY: I don't remember, but go ahead.

SEAN PENN: It's a true thing.

KYLIE MAR: Hannity gave it one more shot at the end of what was a civil conversation despite glaring political differences. So Penn summed up his continued lack of trust in Hannity with an analogy.

SEAN HANNITY: I don't trust you, that's what you said to me. Do you trust me that I keep my word?

SEAN PENN: You absolutely kept your word, and I-- and I do--

SEAN HANNITY: So why don't you trust me?

SEAN PENN: You know, what happens is-- is that there's a lot of physical therapy necessary--

[LAUGHTER]

--after a big car accident. You don't get it all done in a day.

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