Scientists Just Changed the Rules of What You Can Do While You Sleep

Caroline Delbert
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Photo credit: C.J. Burton - Getty Images
Photo credit: C.J. Burton - Getty Images

From Popular Mechanics

Scientists at Northwestern University are doing a dream jobโ€”literally: theyโ€™re questioning people who are deep in dream-filled REM sleep. The crazy part? Those dreamers are actually answering basic questions by moving their eyes back and forth.

By prompting people to lucid dream and asking questions, these scientists are proving dreams are permeable in both directions. Thatโ€™s big.

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Weโ€™ve known for a while that dreams can include things prompted by real life, like a monster that turns out to be a stifling pillow or an alarm clock noise that joins the dream action. But this is one of the first experiments to show that people having dreams can reach out from their dreaming state into real life.

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โ€œIndividuals who are asleep and in the midst of a lucid dream (aware of the fact that they are currently dreaming) can perceive questions from an experimenter and provide answers using electrophysiological signals,โ€ the researchers write in Current Biology.

In the study, the subjects exhibited โ€œvarious capabilitiesโ€ during REM sleep, the scientists say, including making โ€œdistinctive eye movements and selective facial muscle contractionsโ€ and correctly answering questions โ€œon 29 occasions across 6 of the individuals tested.โ€

Polysomnography, a fancy word for sleep study, โ€œrecords your brain waves, the oxygen level in your blood, heart rate and breathing, as well as eye and leg movements during the study,โ€ according to the Mayo Clinic.

In this study, the researchers had subjects move their eyes back and forth to count out numbersโ€”for example, eight minus six, so theyโ€™d move their eyes back and forth two times. The scientists gave the subjects instructions while they were awake that they carried into their lucid dreams and remembered to be able to do on cue.

Photo credit: Konkoly, et. al./Current Biology
Photo credit: Konkoly, et. al./Current Biology

The Northwestern study is very small, with just six people out of 36 who were able to both have lucid dreams and register correct answers to questions from inside. But if that number reflected the larger population, it would mean over 15 percent of people might lucid dream and be able to communicate in this way.

To make sure the subjects were really, truly in REM sleep, the scientists used the full capability of their polysomnography setup to measure โ€œsleep physiology,โ€ like a highfalutinโ€™ version of waving your hand in front of someoneโ€™s face. One obstacle is that REM sleep must be โ€œstabilized,โ€ the scientists say, because even the eye movements themselves can wake people up sometimes.

Benjamin Baird, a sleep researcher at the University of Wisconsinโ€“Madison who wasnโ€™t involved in this study, told Scientific American the findings โ€œchallenge our ideas about what sleep is.โ€ SciAm has more:

Sleep has classically been defined as unresponsiveness to external environmental stimuliโ€”and that feature is still typically part of the definition today, Baird explains. โ€œThis work pushes us to think carefullyโ€”rethink, maybeโ€”about some of those fundamental definitions about the nature of sleep itself, and what's possible in sleep.โ€

The idea of learning during sleep has long become a sitcom clichรฉโ€”someone listens to a dating tape or a stop-smoking tape, for example, and suddenly acts odd because of subliminal cues. But this research indicates that people might really be able to study while asleep in a way that could help their waking life, like memorizing facts or visualizing high performance sports or music.

โ€œIn addition, interactive dreaming could also be used to solve problems and promote creativity,โ€ the researchers conclude. โ€œThe next moonshot ideas could be produced with an interactive method that can combine the creative advantages of dreaming with the logical advantages of wake.โ€

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