GulagXII: Yes, the UK forces are underfunded. But if the development and procurement programmes were managed better, there would be substantial savings. The 'high leg boot' that came out after the DMS failed so badly in the Falklands is a case in point. Built to a basement price so low that the toms started to buy civi boots for operations and exercises. Ditch the 'cost-plus' contracts that write an open cheque to contractors. Retire a swathe of elderly Generals, Admirals and Air Marshals and other high ranks who are marking time out in the MoD doing the square root of f'all, and stuffing their pensions. And stop politicians and the treasury telling the Military what they need, which is usually the cheapest, least able and mainly replaced at greater cost at a later date. Like the rest of the country (including the NHS), it needs good management; something we badly lack today.