Matty Healy's Aunt Shares His Reaction to Taylor Swift's TTPD

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Matty Healy's reaction to The Tortured Poets Department has been entered into evidence.

After Taylor Swift dropped her highly anticipated 11th studio album—as well as a surprise anthology—on April 19, many fans have been uncovering lyrical Easter eggs that point to their short-lived romance, which sparked in spring 2023 after the "Lover" singer ended her six-year relationship with Joe Alwyn.

While Matty has not publicly spoken out about the record, his family had a sense of what The 1975 frontman is feeling amid renewed attention on his relationship with Taylor.

"Nothing surprises him anymore," his aunt Debbie Dedes told the Daily Mail shortly after TTPD's release. "He will not be surprised by the song. Him and her know what went on."

Debbie also noted that Matty has moved on romantically with model Gabbriette Bechtel, who he has been dating since September.

"He's very happy in his new relationship," she added, "so I'm sure he will be focusing on that."

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Matty, 35, and Taylor, 34, first sparked romance rumors in 2014. However, it wasn't until nearly a decade later when they stepped out together, with Matty even joining her Eras Tour opening act Phoebe Bridgers on stage.

Songs in TTPD that seemingly alluded to Matty and their brief fling included lead single "Fortnight," in which Taylor—who is now dating Travis Kelce—sang about a "temporary" romance.

"And I love you, it's ruining my life," the lyrics teased. "I touched you, for only a fortnight."

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Meanwhile, the album's title track mentioned a typewriter, which Matty once noted he likes to use when writing music. "You smokеd, then ate seven bars of chocolate / We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist," Taylor cooed, appearing to reference Matty's 2013 single and his love of the "See You Again" artist. "I scratch your head, you fall asleep / Like a tattooed golden retriever."

And in the bonus track "The Black Dog," the lyrics referenced The Starting Line, a pop-punk band Matty has a known penchant for.

"In The Black Dog, when someone plays The Starting Line / And you jump up, but she's too young to know this song," the Grammy winner sang in a seeming nod to Matty's new relationship. "That was intertwined in the magic fabric of our dreaming / Old habits die screaming."

For more decoded TTPD lyrics, keep reading.

<p><strong>"Fortnight" (featuring Post Malone): </strong>In the first track of <em>TTPD</em>, <strong>Taylor Swift</strong> and <strong>Post Malone</strong> team up to sing about a "temporary" romance that lasted for a fortnight (two weeks).</p> <p>"And I love you, it's ruining my life," the lyrics tease. "I touched you, for only a fortnight."</p> <p>It appears the song is a reference to Taylor's <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1373681/matty-healy-spotted-at-taylor-swifts-eras-tour-concert-amid-romance-rumors" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:rekindled romance;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">rekindled romance</a> with <strong>The 1975</strong>'s <strong>Matty Healy</strong>, which first began in 2014 and revived a decade later in the spring of 2023 following <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1099908/taylor-swift-and-joe-alwyn-break-up-after-6-years-together" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:her breakup;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">her breakup</a> with <strong>Joe Alwyn</strong>. </p> <p>And although the revival of Taylor and Matty's relationship was brief, it was jam-packed with emotion, according to these lyrics. </p> <p>She told iHeartRadio the opening number is "fatalistic" just like the rest of the "tragic" album. </p>


<p><strong>"The Tortured Poets Department":</strong> While fans <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1394477/why-taylor-swift-fans-think-tortured-poets-department-is-a-nod-to-ex-joe-alwyn" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:previously pointed out the connection;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">previously pointed out the connection</a> between the album's name <em>TTPD</em> and Joe's <a href="https://twitter.com/raspberhrriies/status/1754334230056976824?s=42&t=0L6eq_mDaLALpQODpLKQtQ" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:WhatsApp group chat;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">WhatsApp group chat</a> called "The Tortured Man Club," the titular song actually includes references to Matty.</p> <p>Even the track's opening lyrics, "You left your typewriter at my apartment," gives a nod to Matty, who noted he "really" likes typewriters <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tde3nYmKFlI" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:in a 2019 interview;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">in a 2019 interview</a> with <em>GQ</em>.</p> <p>Later on in the song, the lyrics offer more insight into Taylor and Matty's strong bond. Taylor even recalls, "At dinner you take my ring off my middle finger and put it on the one people put wedding rings on. And that’s the closest I’ve come to my heart exploding."</p> <p>Taylor's lyrics also include shoutouts to poet <strong>Dylan Thomas</strong>—"you're not Dylan Thomas"—and singer-songwriter <strong>Patti Smith</strong>—"I'm not Patti Smith." As well as <strong>Charlie Puth</strong>. "You smoked then ate seven bars of chocolate / We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist."</p>


<p><strong>"My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys":</strong> "I'm queen of sandcastles he destroys," Taylor sings on the third song on the album, in which she recalls a partner who ran away from their relationship. </p> <p>"Cause I knew too much / There was danger in the heat of my touch," the lyrics note. "Saw forever so he smashed it up."</p> <p>The Grammy winner told iHeartRadio the track is a "metaphor from the perspective of a child's toy," where the kid breaks the toy and doesn't want to play with it anymore—just like in relationships, where "we're so valued in the beginning." It's about the denial that the romance can't go back to that.</p> <p>She previously compared lovers to toys in 2019's "Cruel Summer," in which she sang, "Bad, bad boy, shiny toy with a price / You know that I bought it."</p>


<p><strong>"Down Bad": </strong>In the lyrics to this song, Taylor reflects on being ghosted by a guy, who she calls her "twin," after being infatuated by him.</p> <p>"How dare you think it's romantic / Leaving me safe and stranded," she sings. "Cause f--k it, I was in love / So f--k you if I can't have us."</p> <p>The "stranded" lyric may sound familiar to Swifties, given that Taylor uses it in the 1989 song "New Romantics": "Please leave me stranded / It's so romantic."</p> <p>Taylor admitted to iHeartRadio that "Down Bad" compares the "idea of being love bombed—where someone rocks your world and dazzles you and then kind of abandons you—as an alien abduction." The artist said when the character was "dropped back off" in her hometown, she misses the other "weird" world.</p> <p>"I've just been exposed to a whole different galaxy and universe I didn't know was possible," Taylor explained. "How can you just put me back where I was before?"</p>


<p><strong>"So Long, London": </strong>Taylor has been known to reserve track five for her most heartbreaking songs, and, yes, "<a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1399781/untangling-taylor-swifts-heartbreaking-goodbye-to-joe-alwyn-in-so-long-london" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:So Long, London;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">So Long, London</a>" definitely fits the bill.</p> <p>In this track, Taylor reflects on the end of her relationship with Joe (who previously inspired "London Boy") and the memories they shared in the city together over the years. She also alludes to <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1371346/taylor-swift-seemingly-shares-what-led-to-joe-alwyn-breakup-in-new-song-youre-losing-me" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:what led to the demise of their relationship;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">what led to the demise of their relationship</a>. </p> <p>"I didn't opt in to be your odd man out," she sings. "I founded the club she's heard great things about / I left all I knew, you left me at the house by the Heath."</p>


<p><strong>"But Daddy I Love Him": </strong> Taylor raised eyebrows when she spent time with Matty, <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1386675/ice-spice-reveals-where-she-stands-with-matty-healy-after-his-controversial-comments" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:who's been called out for his controverisal comments over the years;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">who's been called out for his controverisal comments over the years</a>. In "But Daddy I Love Him," she addresses a similar theme of wanting a relationship to work despite criticism from the outside world.</p> <p>"No I'm not coming to my senses," she declares. "I know it's crazy but he's the one I want."</p> <p><strong>"Fresh Out the Slammer": </strong>After getting out of a long relationship with Joe, Taylor seemingly knew who she wanted to call: Matty. </p> <p>"I did my time," she sings. "Now pretty baby I'm running back home to you."</p>


<p><strong>"Florida!!!" (featuring Florence and the Machine): </strong>What to do when you need an escape? Head to Florida. At least, that's what Taylor and <strong>Florence Welch</strong> advise in this track. </p> <p>"You can beat the heat if you beat the charges too / They said I was a cheat, I guess it must be true," Taylor sings, referencing speculation about her personal life. "And my friends, all smell like weed or little babies / And the city reeks of driving myself crazy."</p> <p>"I need to forget, so take me to Florida," the lyrics later continue. "I've got some regrets, I'll bury them in Florida."</p> <p>Taylor explained that the song was actually inspired by true crime sagas about escaping town.</p> <p>“I’m always watching like <em>Dateline</em>—people, you know, have these crimes that they commit," she told <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/music/a60547858/taylor-swift-florida-lyrics-explained/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:iHeartRadio;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">iHeartRadio</a>. "Where do they immediately skip town and go to? They go to Florida, you know? They like try to reinvent themselves, have a new identity, blend in. And I think when you go through a heartbreak, there’s a part of you that thinks, 'I want a new name, I want a new life, I don’t want anyone to know where I’ve been or know me at all.'” </p> <p>One last secret about "Florida!!!"? Taylor's pal <strong>Emma Stone</strong> <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1399823/emma-stones-role-in-taylor-swifts-tortured-poets-department-song-florida-revealed" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:helped write the song;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">helped write the song</a>.</p> <p><strong>"Guilty as Sin?": </strong>In another apparent nod to Matty, Taylor starts "Guilty as Sin?" with the lyrics, "Drowning in the Blue Nile / He sent me downtown lights." Well, it just so happens that, back in 2022, Matty <a href="https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/matt-healys-favourite-80s-albums/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:named;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">named</a> <strong>The Blue Nile</strong>'s <em>Hats</em> as one of his favorite albums of the 1980s.</p>


<p><strong>"Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?"</strong>: Taylor tackles her critics in this passionate track."Is it a wonder I broke? Let’s hear one morе joke," she sings. "Then we could all just laugh until I cry."</p> <p><strong>"I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)"</strong>: As Taylor notes in this song, she believed she could help change someone, despite any naysayers.</p> <p>"The smoke cloud billows out his mouth like a freight train through a small town," she sings. "The jokes that he told across the bar were revolting and far too loud."</p> <p>"Thеy shake their heads saying, 'God, help her' when I tell 'em he's my man," the lyrics continue. "But your good lord doesn't need to lift a finger / I can fix him, no, really, I can / And only I can." </p>


<p><strong>"Loml": </strong>In this moving track, Taylor first sings about being called the love of someone's life "about a million times." However, the dynamic soon changed. </p> <p>"If you know it in one glimpse, it's legendary," she notes. "What we thought was for all time was momentary."</p> <p>She ends the song by letting the person know, "You're the loss of my life."</p> <p>While it could be about her long relationship with Joe, lyrics about "rekindled flames" and "we were just kids, babe" hint it's about her spark with Matty after all these years: "I've felt a glow like this never before and never since."</p> <p><strong>"I Can Do It With a Broken Heart": </strong>The song appears to be about Taylor slaying her Eras Tour despite the heartbreak, noting that she's "hittin' my marks" on stage in front of a chanting crowd. She hides her emotions by putting on a strong face: "Lights, camera, bitch smile."</p> <p><span>Though this song is upbeat, it's filled with lyrics of unrequited love. </span></p> <p>"I'm so obsessed with him, but he avoids me like the plague / I cry a lot, but I am so productive, it's an art," she sings. "You know you're good when you can even do it with a broken heart."</p> <p><strong>"The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived": </strong>Taylor has a few questions for "the smallest man who ever lived," who seemingly left their relationship out of nowhere.</p> <p>"You kicked out the stage lights, but you're still performing," she sings. "And in plain sight you hid / But you are what you did."</p>


<p><strong>"The Alchemy":</strong> After ditching "the clowns," Taylor found the guy on the Chiefs. In "The Alchemy," an <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1399785/taylor-swift-proves-travis-kelce-is-the-mvp-of-her-heart-in-these-tortured-poets-department-songs" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:apparent nod to her NFL player boyfriend;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">apparent nod to her NFL player boyfriend</a> <strong>Travis Kelce</strong>, Taylor makes several sports references.</p> <p>"I haven't come around in so long / But I'm coming back strong," Taylor sings. "So when I touch down, call the amateurs and cut 'em from the team."</p> <p>She later references her past "blokes," who "warm the benches," noting "we been on a winning streak."</p>


<p><strong>"Clara Bow": </strong>The lyrics to the final song on the album address the connection between Taylor and the late actress <strong>Clara Bow</strong>, whose life, similar to Taylor's, was subjected to much speculation and scrutiny.</p> <p>"It's hell on earth to be heavenly," Taylor sings. "Them's the brakes, they don't come gently."</p> <p>The lyrics also put a spotlight on the comparisons of women in the public eye, with the mention of Clara, <strong>Stevie Nicks</strong> and Taylor herself.</p> <p>And, as if being told to the next star in line, "You look like Taylor Swift / In this light, we're loving it," the lyrics state. "You've got edge, she never did / The future's bright, dazzling."</p>


<p><strong>"thanK you aIMee":</strong> After <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1399782/taylor-swift-surprises-fans-with-double-album-drop-of-the-tortured-poets-departmen" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:surprising fans at 2 a.m. with a double album;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">surprising fans at 2 a.m. with a double album</a>, featuring 15 additional <em>Tortured Poet</em> songs, Swifties were <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1399788/taylor-swift-shades-kim-kardashian-on-the-tortured-poets-departments-thank-you-aimee" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:quick to spot;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">quick to spot</a> <strong>Kim Kardashian</strong>'s name in the title of "thanK you aIMee."</p> <p>"And it wasn't a fair fight, or a clean kill / Each time that Aimee stomped across my gravе," Taylor sings, seemingly referencing <a href="https://www.eonline.com/news/1390960/taylor-swift-calls-out-kim-kardashian-over-infamous-kanye-west-call" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:the infamous phone call between her and Kanye West;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">the infamous phone call between her and <strong>Kanye West</strong></a> that Kim posted online in 2016. "And then she wrote hеadlinesIn the local paper, laughing at each baby step I'd take."</p> <p>But, as the lyrics note, Taylor is stronger now: "All that time you were throwin' punches, I was buildin' somethin' / And I couldn't wait to show you it was real / Screamed "F--k you, Aimee" to the night sky, as the blood was gushin' / But I can't forget the way you made me heal."</p>


<p><strong>"So High School": </strong>Taylor seems to compare her love story with Travis to a sweet high school romance.</p> <p>"Are you gonna marry, kiss or kill me?" she sings. "It's just a game, but really I'm bettin' on all three for us two."</p> <p>Travis was once asked in a <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymail/video/7282840608694111530?lang=en" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:viral throwback video;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">viral throwback video</a> to play "kiss, marry, kill" with Taylor, <strong>Katy Perry</strong> and <strong>Ariana Grande</strong>. (He said he'd kiss Taylor and marry Katy.)</p> <p>In "So High School," Taylor also alludes to Travis opening doors for her and perhaps the night she rode in a convertible with him after one of his football games, noting, "Get my car door, isn't that sweet? Then pull me to thе backseat." </p> <p>Not to mention this mic-drop: "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle."</p>


<p><strong>"Peter": </strong>She sings about a man who told her was gonna "grow up" and then "come find" her to start their lives. However, one clue about Peter's age tipped fans off that Peter is probably a pseudonym for Matty.</p> <p>"And you said you'd come and get me, but you were 25," Taylor sings. "And the shelf life of those fantasies has expired."</p> <p>Indeed, Matty was about 25 years old in 2014, when the pair grew close and he famously supported Taylor by wearing a <em>1989</em> T-shirt.</p> <p>The Peter in this song is also likely the same Peter in 2020's "Cardigan" ("Peter losing Wendy") as a reference to <em>Peter Pan</em>.</p> <p>"Lost to the 'Lost Boys' chapter of your life," read the lyrics of her new 2024 track. "Forgive me, Peter, please know that I tried."</p> <p>Still not convinced Matty is THE Peter? When he and Taylor were dating in May 2023, she <a href="https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/matty-healy-taylor-swift-dating-rumors-big-weekend-festival-1235342266/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" data-ylk="slk:mouthed;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas" class="link ">mouthed</a> the words "This one is about you. You know who you are. I love you" on stage at the Eras Tour while performing "Cardigan."</p>


<p><strong>"The Manuscript"</strong>: The lyrics may reference her romance with <strong>John Mayer</strong>—who she dated in 2009 when she was 19 and he was 32—since she sings about an age gap. </p> <p>“In the age of him, she wished she was 30 / And made coffee every morning in a Frеnch press," Taylor sings, later adding, "She thought about how he said since she was so wise beyond her years / Everything had been above board / She wasn't sure."</p> <p>He is also believed to have inspired her past songs "Dear John" and "Would've, Could've, Should've." </p>


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