Matty Healy’s Aunt Addresses Taylor Swift Fan Theory That ‘TTPD’ Is About Him

Michelle Stein
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When Taylor Swift's 11th studio album The Tortured Poets Department was released on Friday, April 19, fans expected a breakup album about her ex, Joe Alwyn. What they ended up getting, however, were a slew of songs focusing on her previous relationship with The 1975 frontman, Matty Healy.

Now, Healy's aunt, Debbie Dedes, has addressed fan theories about the album focusing on her nephew.

"Nothing surprises him any more," Dedes told the Daily Mail. "He will not be surprised by the song. Him and her know what went on."

Dedes—a sister of Healy's mother, English talk show Loose Women panelist Denise Welch—said of Swift, 34: "She writes about all her relationships, doesn't she?"

Healy's aunt also noted that the English musician is "very happy in his new relationship," adding, "I'm sure he will be focusing on that." Healy, 35, is reportedly dating model Gabriette Bechtel, 26.

Although Swift is happily dating Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce, fans have speculated that many of her TTPD tracks are about Healy, including "Fortnight," "The Tortured Poets Department," "But Daddy I Love Him," "Down Bad," "I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)," "Guilty as Sin?," "The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived" and "The Black Dog."

The titular track describes a man who "smoked then ate seven bars of chocolate"—references to his smoking habit and The 1975's song "Chocolate." Additionally, "TTPD" describes her unnamed lover as a "tattooed golden retriever," and Healy is well-inked.

Similarly, in "The Black Dog,"  Swift sings, "Six weeks of breaking clean air / I still miss the smoke," prompting fans to again make a connection to Healy. She also mentions his love for the emo band, The Starting Line; Healy has covered their song "The Best of Me."

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Swift's lyrics about "pills," a man's "Jehovah’s Witness suit" and a summer romance in "The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived" have also caused Swifties to wonder if they're about The 1975 frontman.

Because Swift does not generally confirm or deny rumors about the identities of individuals in her songs, fans will ultimately be left to draw their own conclusions about the music.

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