Kelly Clarkson says Scooter Braun called her manager when she told Taylor Swift to re-record music

Kelly Clarkson is opening up about that viral Taylor Swift tweet.

In an interview with Andy Cohen for a SiriusXM Town Hall special on Wednesday, Clarkson opened up about how music manager Scooter Braun reacted to her publicly telling Swift to re-record her music amid Swift's 2019 public battle with Braun and her former record label, Big Machine Records.

"I think Scooter took offense to it, because we ran into each other, and I think he reached out at the time to my manager. I was like, 'It wasn't anything against him,'" she explained. "When [Swift] came out and said that and I heard about it, I was like, 'Whatever. Re-record them. Your fans will support you.' Uh, they did. She has like every top record right now in the charts."

In 2019, following the news that Braun had bought the rights to Swift's masters for her first six albums when he acquired Big Machine, Clarkson tweeted, "@taylorswift13 just a thought, U should go in & re-record all the songs that U don't own the masters on exactly how U did them but put brand new art & some kind of incentive so fans will no longer buy the old versions." (Braun later sold the catalog to private equity company Shamrock Holdings for a reported figure between $300-450 million.)

Trae Patton/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank/Getty Kelly Clarkson (left); Taylor Swift (right)

When Cohen asked what Braun said to her about the tweet, Clarkson clarified that he didn't say anything to her directly.

"He called my manager at the time, I heard, and I don't know what happened or what was said, but I think he thought I was attacking him. I was like, 'I honest to God didn't even realize who had the [rights].' I didn't even know all the information," she recalled.

Clarkson continued, "I knew it was important to her, so I thought, 'Why don't you just re-record them? Your fans will support you.' Literally, she's a genius. Not only did she re-record it, she planned this Eras Tour — like, this woman is brilliant."

One source familiar with the situation disputed Clarkson's account, telling EW that Braun had been trying to get in touch with Swift to discuss her masters, and reached out to Clarkson's camp to see if she could assist in arranging a meeting, which didn't pan out.

Swift, who is in the midst of said Eras Tour, has so far re-recorded and released "Taylor's Versions" of her albums Red and Fearless, and is gearing up to release the newly recorded version of Speak Now on July 7. She has said she plans to do the same for her albums 1989, Reputation, and Taylor Swift in a bid to own the masters to all of her work.

For her part, Clarkson said Swift never reached out to her about the advice. "I think she is brilliant," she said of Swift. "She would've come up with that on her own and she maybe already had before I even tweeted it."

This article has been updated with additional information.

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