Joe Scarborough Says Donald Trump Asked Three Times Why We Can’t Just Use Nuclear Weapons If We Have Them

The past few days of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s campaign have been fraught with missteps and controversy. But things took a more chilling turn when on Wednesday, Joe Scarborough, alongside his MSNBC colleagues, was chatting with retired four-star Gen. Michael Hayden and the Morning Joe host relayed an anecdote about Trump he had been told.

“I’ll have to be very careful here,” Scarborough said slowly. “Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on international level went to advise Donald Trump, and three times he asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked, at one point, ‘If we have them, why can’t we use them?’ That’s one of the reasons why he just doesn’t have foreign policy experts around him.”

Scarborough, previously a Republican congressman from Florida, clearly startled his colleagues with this story. “Trump,” asked a nonplussed Mike Barnicle. “Trump asked three times?” “Three times, in an hour briefing,” confirmed Scarborough. “Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?”

CBS News reporter Sopan Deb, covering the Trump campaign for his network, tweeted, “Trump camp says ‘There is no truth to this,’ referring to [Scarborough’s] claim about Trump asking about why we can’t use nuclear weapons.”

Hayden, who also served as director of the NSA and CIA under both Democratic and Republican presidents and has yet to endorse any candidate for president, explained to the MSNBC panel that if a President Trump wanted to use nuclear weapons, he could use nuclear weapons. “It’s scenario-dependent,” Hayden said. “But the system is designed for speed and decisiveness. It’s not designed to debate the decision.”

“Oy,” responded Scarborough’s co-host Mika Brzezinski.

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