Editors post-Golden Globes slugfest: Debating the show, the host, and what the results mean going forward [WATCH]

Ray Richmond, Denton Davidson, Daniel Montgomery and Marcus James Dixon
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Still recovering from watching and/or covering the Golden Globes on Sunday night, Gold Derby senior editors Marcus James Dixon, Denton Davidson and Daniel Montgomery, news and features editor Ray Richmond and encyclopedic awards expert extraordinaire Tariq Khan sat down Monday morning (Pacific Time) to sort out what they had just seen hours before. Davidson was interviewing those arriving on the red carpet (assessment: freezing), while Richmond hung out in the general press room recording Q&As with winners backstage (assessment: uninspired) and Dixon, Montgomery and Khan watched it all unfold on TV as the awards gods intended. Their overall evaluation was that the comedy from presenters was hit-and-miss and first-time host Jo Koy fell flat, but that in general the results – mostly predictable though they may have been – supply a valuable gauge for the SAG, Critics Choice and Oscar races coming up. Watch their colorful and opinionated slugfest above.

The problem with host Koy from Montgomery’s perspective was that he was poking fun at the room but “hadn’t really earned the right to poke fun at the people the way he did. The jokes didn’t land. It didn’t feel like it was in good nature. They didn’t really know him as a personality, so it was just uncomfortable.” Khan called Koy’s stint “a disaster” and used it as evidence that the Golden Globes should return to the days when it had no host. “Maybe next year they’ll return to that tradition and leave the Oscars to have the big host. I feel like it’s not really necessary (for the Globes).”

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Turning to the winners on the night, there was overall consensus that the Oscar Best Actress faceoff had turned into a two-horse race following the wins of Emma Stone for “Poor Things” and Lily Gladstone for “Killers of the Flower Moon” but also plenty of debate over who now has the inside track. Davidson thinks Gladstone is now “the frontrunner” but adds “I’m not sold that Lily is completely safe.” Montgomery compared the Sunday night results to Lupita Nyong’o’s win at the 2014 Critics Choice Awards for “12 Years a Slave” over Jennifer Lawrence, who was making her bid for “American Hustle.” Watching it, Montgomery recalls thinking, “Oh, this race just ended, Lupita just won the Oscar.”

“What it comes down to for me is, do voters want to see another Oscar speech from (previous winner) Emma Stone, or do they want to see an historic first Oscar speech from Lily Gladstone,” he adds. “I certainly think Lily made a strong case for seeing her again at Oscar tine, especially because she was the only win for ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’.” Khan agrees that Gladstone’s poignant acceptance speech on Sunday was “the most important speech of the night, because she talked about the historic nature of her win. She have a shout-out to the res kids, the little urban kids, to the Native kids watching. If she wins the Oscars, it will really mean something, I think that’s her path to victory.”

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Davidson and Richmond also shed light on the Oscar supporting actress race, with Davidson admitting he’s “jumping off” the train that had him supporting Danielle Brooks for “The Color Purple” following Da’Vine Joy Randolph’s win for “The Holdovers” at the Globes – and Richmond agreeing that he too has leapt off. “I’ve held on as long as I can,” Davidson admits. “The awards circuit is not accepting of this film (“Color Purple”). So I’m leaving my heart and going with my head at this point.” However, he stressed that he was still open to changing his mind back, particularly if Randolph continues to read her acceptance using cheat notes onstage.

Richmond says he’s starting to see a bandwagon forming for “Oppenheimer” following its wins Sunday night for drama film, for director (Christopher Nolan), lead drama actor (Cillian Murphy) and supporting actor (Robert Downey Jr.). “I think Downey is looking like a lock (for the Oscar),” he believes. “He seemed to wrap it up on Sunday. Also, Nolan is a certainty and picture is looking good. I’m not totally sold on Murphy yet.”

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“I’m still on the Bradley Cooper train (for Best Actor for “Maestro”),” Dixon maintains. “I’m very curious what SAG is going to do because it sometimes goes separate, and then the Oscar usually copies what SAG does. So if Bradley can win at SAG, he definitely is still in this race and he’s got the more over-the-top performance with the physical transformation, which is the classic Oscar bait role.”

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