Catherine Reitman Talks Her Series, "Workin' Moms"
Warm, loyal PR executive Kate (Catherine Reitman) and her longtime friend, no-nonsense psychiatrist Anne, attend a judgmental mommies' group, where they meet timid IT tech Jenny and blindly optimistic real estate agent Frankie. The four quickly form an unlikely friendship, sharing struggles of urban motherhood filled with the chaos of toddlers, tantrums, careers, and identity crises, all while trying to achieve the holy grail: a sense of self.
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BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Hey, everyone. Welcome back to "BUILD." I'm your host, Brittany Jones-Cooper, and today I'm sitting down with Catherine Reitman. The actress, director, and writer is the co-creator of the CBC show "Working Moms," which follows four mothers navigating the struggles of urban motherhood, including moody toddlers, careers, and identity crises. Take a look.
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(SINGING) --not going to shake me. Shake until I give it up. Well, let me down baby. I'm [INAUDIBLE] we could make some [INAUDIBLE].
So go and challenge me. Take the reins and see. Watch me squirm, baby. You are just what I need. And I've never played a fair game.
[GROWL]
- Hey, buddy.
[ROAR]
- [SCREAMS]
- (WHISPERING) OK. OK. OK.
- Hey, are you OK?
- [SCREAMS]
- OK. [SOBBING] Oh no. Hey. Hey. It's OK. [HUMMING] (SINGING) Fill her [INAUDIBLE] of songs and [INAUDIBLE].
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Everyone put your hands together for Catherine Reitman.
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I almost missed my cue because I'm so into that clip. I binge watched, like, five or six episodes of this yesterday, and that was literally, like-- I was dying.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Thank you.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --because that's how I imagined parenthood to be is like--
CATHERINE REITMAN: It's a lot of bears. There's a lot of bears. I don't know how many mothers there are in the crowd here, but it's largely just bears and babies--
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yes.
CATHERINE REITMAN: --and trying to keep the baby alive from the bears and the bears alive from the babies.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Exactly. And like the anxieties around-- like, I just-- like that is, I think, the perfect reflection of what parenthood is.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Well, it becomes like a battle cry, right? I mean, I think what, like, so many working mothers or stay-at-home mothers would agree on is that people stop looking at you like a person. They stop treating you like the person you studied to be in school and you spent your whole life becoming and developing. So that moment was really meant to be a battle cry--
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: --at the identity crisis of motherhood.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Right. And then her singing to the baby-- and you have to watch the episode, but that is what really got me.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yes.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: It was a callback to something earlier that I thought was really hilarious.
This show is in its third season in Canada, but now US audiences are going to get to see it. It's coming to Netflix on February 22, which is
CATHERINE REITMAN: Huge. We're so excited. I mean, I'm so proud of our home. I'm so proud of CBC and Canada because they green-- Sally Catto saw this little tape I made, this eight-minute tape my husband and I made. And she said this needs to exist. A show like this, with the authenticity of motherhood, needs to be out there. And the fact that now America and the rest of the world are going to see it on Netflix this Friday, February 22, I couldn't be prouder.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: So take me back to the beginning. This is your baby. You and your husband created this show together. So take me back in the beginning why you felt like these stories need to be told in this way.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, it's kind of an awkward story, but I-- after I gave birth to my first kid, I had postpartum depression. And I kept fantasizing about driving somewhere and that, like, a car would just hit me and take me away.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Not kill me. I'm not suicidal. Just put me in a hospital with, like, you know, some nice morphine and some food-delivery service. I knew my kid would be fine. My husband's very good, if he's watching. He's a very good husband. But just, like, to get, like, a break, a brain-dead vacation.
And so I went to my first mommy and me, and I brought that up, thinking all the moms were going to be like, I hear you. They changed the subject immediately. And one of them walked me back to my car and is like, you should stop coming. And I was like, what? How is this not the exact place-- that we're paying for, by the way-- where we can connect about this and talk about how weird all of this is?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: And so it was from that that my husband was like you got to start writing something. And so this show was birthed.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: And it does center around Kate. And she is this very successful businesswoman. And she's just had her first baby, and now she's going back to work and navigating all of that. You are obviously a working mom. So how much of that is personal for you?
CATHERINE REITMAN: It's all personal.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I mean, Kate and Frankie, Jenny, are all elements of my very bad personality. My anger, my lost child, my vanity, my painful ambition are all-- and I know I'm not alone in this. In Canada women stop me all the time saying, oh my God. I'm so embarrassed to say this, but I'm a Jenny. Or, God, I'm such a Frankie. Thank you for talking about postpartum or whatever it is. So they're all based off of my real-life stories or stories from our writers room.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Definitely. And what was casting like? Because I have to say this--
CATHERINE REITMAN: Isn't it the most amazing cast?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah. It's really Great. I mean, Frankie kills me. Just, I mean that character is so funny and the actress-- yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Juno Rinaldi is so brilliant. And I mean, look, forget this. These three are where the show is at.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I'm lucky enough to have become friends with them in real life, and I'm just floored by the-- they're just-- they're so brilliant every day. They completely rule.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: It is, like, the "Sex and the City" kind of crew where, like, they're all so extreme, but then you can see yourself in all of them. And I think that's what makes it so relatable, even if you don't have a child, is because you can imagine that's what you're going to be like or what those situations would feel like for you.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I think what surprised me so much was I really thought people would watch the show and connect to the relationships between either the wife and wife or the husbands and wife and how hard it is to have a kid. But, in fact, it was people's connection with the fierce female friendship, how much they love Kate and Anne's friendship, how much people lean on it because, you know, in so many of our lives we kind of end up leaning on our friends more than our partners.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: And these mommy groups too, I think it shows--
CATHERINE REITMAN: Ugh.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --a really honest take on them because I think people are like, oh, it's great. It's this, like, beautiful sisterhood and blah, blah, blah. But like you mentioned, there can be a lot of criticism in these groups and a lot of you feeling bad about things that you thought were normal.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Well, you know what it is? There's just so much dishonesty with motherhood in general and, like, the representation of how mothers are to appear, whether it's like the broad appeal of comedies with dirty diapers and being a bad mom or the, like, after-school special of how dark it is.
But the truth is it's just a lot of really embarrassing, humiliating moments where you keep going, God, I swear to God when I was 20 if you told me you'd be standing here in the middle of the night awake, like, doing everything I can not to wake a screaming infant, it just doesn't make sense.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah, or like I used the C word around my kid, that whole line where you're like-- anyway, you guys got to watch. I don't want to ruin it for you, but it's like--
CATHERINE REITMAN: I so love that you love that scene.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah, I would, like, cuss around my kid, and I'd feel-- I'm sure women feel judged for that, but, like, sometimes you have to because sometimes--
CATHERINE REITMAN: The C word is not can't.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --kids are assholes.
CATHERINE REITMAN: It's not can't. I'll just say that.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: And you guys-- this is set in Toronto.
CATHERINE REITMAN: It is.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: So is there anything specific about the mom culture in Toronto that made that a good place to set the show?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Toronto's just an amazing place to shoot, and it's such a beautiful city to capture, which we do on the show. But, look, being a mom, the culture of mom, the problem with the lack of representation of mom exists everywhere, and I think it's why Netflix picked it up is that this is the world.
Look, dual-income households are a reality now. They're, you know, more common than single-income households. So I think these are the-- women are going back to work. They're choosing either not to have kids or just to have fewer children. And so I think these are stories that women will identify with.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Definitely. And the stories go beyond just the motherhood part. A lot of it is also their relationship with their partners. Your husband plays your husband in the show.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I know. He's so cute.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: So take me through that decision.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Like how we fell in love?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah, take me back to the beginning, the first date.
CATHERINE REITMAN: His birth? Yeah, look, he-- to be honest, I think-- here's a little inside scoop. I think it was him being jealous, if I'm being totally honest, because I was like, God, think about who could play my husband on the show. This could be a lot of fun. And he was like, wha-- wha-- wha. And he was like, I think I will be the one kissing you episode after episode. Thank you very much. And now he plays my husband.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: And he does a great job.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: He does a great job. And I think that the chemistry works because the chemistry is real, you know?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Totally.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: That totally comes through.
CATHERINE REITMAN: And, in fact, sometimes the baby on the show was my real baby.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I was going to ask because I know that, you know, you have a family who's in this industry. I know you appeared in your father's films as a kid, and now I heard that your child has made appearances in your show.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yes. I'm sure he was less of a jerk about it than I was.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Were you a jerk?
CATHERINE REITMAN: No. But he was-- yeah. He was three months old when we started shooting season one. And I actually stopped producing milk just out of stress and lack of sleep. And the storyline was that the baby decides not to latch on because there's no milk and it's heartbreaking. But, in fact, the two twin boys who play my-- you know, because in the TV industry, if you have one baby, it's usually twins. So my twin boys were both asleep on the day, and my three-month-old was happened to be visiting.
So I breastfed him on the show, and he latched on, which he hadn't in weeks. And that ends up being the new ending of the second episode.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Right. So is that emotion--
CATHERINE REITMAN: Spoiler alert.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --that's coming from you kind of real then?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, you better believe it. He latched on for the first time in weeks. I was a wreck.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah. And it's an emotional scene, so it's kind of cool to know that that was a real journey you were on.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Real moment, yeah.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: That is so tough.
CATHERINE REITMAN: And my little Liam.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah. So cute. Will he be making any more appearances?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh God. I want them to have a wonderful, grounded, normal childhood.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: So you mentioned some of the topics that you guys cover, and they all seem to be very important in their own ways postpartum. But also just things going back to work and the identity, the self-worth part of it seems to be a common thread through a lot of it, the struggles of a woman just trying to reconnect with who she was before the baby.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yeah, totally. I think the identity crisis-- and I don't think this only happens with people who have children. I think something happens in your, like, late 20s, early 30s where all of a sudden we're expected to quantum leap.
Like, it doesn't appear-- like no one expects a gradual path anymore. It has to be with all the sudden you live in this kind of a place, and you're in this kind of a relationship, and your face looks like this, and your hair looks like this, and your wardrobe looks like-- and your friendships and your car. And I just don't think that's realistic, especially now. And the more we can sort of break that myth and talk about how difficult it is to transition into that or lack of transition to that, the better.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: And I know behind the scenes too you're doing a lot of work to empower women. We talked in the back you said your department heads are primarily female.
CATHERINE REITMAN: 70%-- 69%, technically.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: That's really, really rare and really impressive.
CATHERINE REITMAN: That is really unheard of, yeah, of [? key ?] departments.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: So why was that important for you?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Well, look, we got to change the game. I don't think that's a mystery to anybody. That 4% terrifying number that came out this year is real. I'm really lucky that I get to be the showrunner of my own series, and with great power comes hiring more women. So yeah, I go out of my way to hire women.
And it's challenging not because women aren't talented but because their resumes are lacking because they haven't been given opportunity that men have. So for me, it had to be about making smart choices where if I didn't see the experience I needed, speaking to them. And I can't tell you how many times I would say an interview, look, I don't see it here, but I want to see it here. So tell me. Tell me what I'm going to get.
And because of that conversation and how transparent it was upfront out of the gates, they deliver every day on that set. And our set is known-- and I think if you ask someone outside of me or outside of these four people, they would reiterate this. They would say it's any cliche you've heard about working with women that it's catty or it's gossipy or overemotional, there was none of that on our set. Our set was productive, supportive, constructive, nonemotional. It was one of the least gossipy sets I've ever worked on as an actor. So it was a-- I have no regrets about hiring that many women. I'd do it again.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I have to imagine, though, it's like that because you're setting the tone. I mean, you're the showrunner. You're the director. I think you're very much who people are looking to, right, for guidance. So I think it also reflect on you. It's like if you create a positive environment, I think people will live up to that expectation.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh. Well, thank you.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah. I mean, and I also know that being a female director probably comes with some struggles. I read in an interview with you that sometimes you had issues with men who were older than you having a problem taking instructions from you.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yes, every once in a while. I'm not the first person to say this, but yeah, being a youngerish female director that sometimes men don't want to take direction from you. Sometimes older women don't want to take direction from you. But it's-- you know, it's part of the growth spurt comes with-- you know, I think there's pains. There's pains just like a teenager would experience in growing up. So we have to continue pushing our agenda and stay calm and focused, and I try to do as much homework as I can before coming so that when I do confront that moment, I can do so steadily.
But do I cry at home in the shower? Sure I cry.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: We all do.
CATHERINE REITMAN: We all cry sometimes.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: We all do. So back to the show. Are there any topics that you're really looking forward to expanding on or exploring that you haven't had the chance to talk about yet?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, as the kids get older, you just get-- they start to talk back. There's much more material to-- and the more your relationship is challenged. But season one, which is coming out this Friday, February 22, covers sort of the initial breakthrough of reintegrating into work after the identity crisis of having a child. But season two and season three, which have aired on the CBC Canada and soon on Netflix, we get into some pretty cool territory.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah. When did those other two seasons come out?
CATHERINE REITMAN: So season one this Friday, February 22. Season two, April 12. And season three we have yet to release a date.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Right. Have you had a chance to really, like, look back at this journey? Because it sounded like it was a labor of love, and now it's expanding so quickly. Like, what do you just feel about all of that?
CATHERINE REITMAN: It's wild, man. It's been a wild ride. Look, I had a three-month-old when we started shooting the first season. And for any of you who have had a child out there, you know what that means. I was literally in the most hormonal roller coaster of my life.
So looking back on it now, I wish I could tell myself that it's OK and to calm down. And, I mean, talk about quantum leaps, right? But it's-- I'm very proud of the journey.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: And it's not the only thing you're doing also. I mean, I've seen you on "Black-ish" and "It's Always Sunny." You're still acting on other projects.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I should stop, right?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah. I mean, are you exhausted?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yeah. I should stop.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah, you're just tired. And so I'm not going to ask that question of how do you balance it all. I'm more interested in your self-care routine. Just, like, what do you do for you?
CATHERINE REITMAN: It's so boring, but you know the basics. I wish I could be like there's a plant found in the desert. Eat it once a year on a full moon. [HOWLS] No. You know, it's the basic stuff. I drink a ton of water. I don't overcaffeinated.
But look, it's also play, right? I mean, you work hard. I love to drink. I love to have fun. I love playing with my friends and getting silly with my husband and getting crazy with my kids, drinking with my kids.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Kids are the best drinkers.
CATHERINE REITMAN: The key to balance is drinking with your children.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Don't you feel like toddlers are little drunk people anyway?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, fully. I was just FaceTiming with my two-year-old. He was like, love you mommy, as he, like, fell down a couple of stairs. I'm like, you all right? My husband's like, he's fine. I'm like, get that kid some water.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: It's the tequila, I'm telling you.
CATHERINE REITMAN: He needs a coffee.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I love that also-- I was just making this connection. The character you play on "Black-ish" and then Kate, they both work in spaces that are mainly male dominated, and they kind of have to be these quick, witty--
CATHERINE REITMAN: It's as if the world were like that.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Right.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Many stories could be based on that.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Right. But what does it--
CATHERINE REITMAN: I don't know about you. I've been in boys clubs all my life.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I grew up with three older brothers.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, you've literally--
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: It's all I knew for the beginning of my life.
CATHERINE REITMAN: You probably can wrestle like a madman.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Oh, I headbutt. It's the only--
CATHERINE REITMAN: You headbutt?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: That's not fair.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: That's how much of an animal I am, yeah. No because, look, they're bigger and stronger than you, so you wrestle, and it never goes your way.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I thought it was just supposed to be like, you know, a foot to the D.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Oh, well, that's--
CATHERINE REITMAN: You headbutt?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I liked-- yeah. I would headbutt. That was my only way to win.
CATHERINE REITMAN: All right, remind me not to wrestle you.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah, don't. I will win.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Don't.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I was also fairly into the WWE, so that's a whole--
CATHERINE REITMAN: OK.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I'm starting to get a big picture right now.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: You're getting to know me.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I like it.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: But what is it that's fun to play those women, you know, on TV? Because I think the characters are so dynamic and that they have to kind of like prove themselves in a way in these spaces--
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yeah.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --even more.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I mean, look, any situation where you feel pigeonholed-- the character feels pigeonholed is this great opportunity to rebel against that, and you get to sort of release both the anger and the vulnerability that combat it. But, yeah, I mean, it's certainly a character I identify with, both of those characters.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Me too. I think that's why I resonate with them because they both just seem so dynamic, and there's-- I almost feel like, in some way, like, the "Black-ish" character we're getting, like, more of her life in this character in a way--
CATHERINE REITMAN: Totally.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --like what she would be like at home because she doesn't really-- you don't really get to see that--
CATHERINE REITMAN: Yeah.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: --you know? That's just me spit balling. I don't know.
CATHERINE REITMAN: No, it's very intuitive.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: OK.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Don't headbutt me. I [INAUDIBLE] that's a good idea.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: OK, I won't. I'll try not to. Just don't try to wrestle me.
CATHERINE REITMAN: OK. Cool.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: We both win.
CATHERINE REITMAN: I'm going to try to wrestle her. I can't stop now. I feel challenged.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I think it's a good time to go to the audience.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Sure.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: We have two questions. Right here.
- Hi.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Does your shirt-- OMG. Dani Kind, I cannot wait to show you this photo. Can we show that on camera?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah.
CATHERINE REITMAN: No, because there's swear words?
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Oh, we can cuss here.
CATHERINE REITMAN: You can? Her shirt says Catherine fucking Reitman. Unbelievable. First of its kind.
- So I really love the show. If I were stranded on a deserted island and I could bring one piece of television with me, it would be the 2005 episode. It's my favorite.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, thank you.
- So my question is why do you think people respond so much to the Kate and Anne dynamic rather than any of the relationships? And also are you ever going to make them get together? because I know everyone would like that.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, Jesus Christ.
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To answer your first question, she's speaking about these two characters and their fierce female friendship, which people have really responded beautifully to. Thank you for that question. Thank you for having the courage to ask the question.
I think for these two, because their relationships with their partners-- I mean, in real life, your relationship with your partner, they witness your darkest moments, your brightest moments. And there's something about a friendship where our lenses change. We have more acceptance with each other than we do with our partners. And I don't think I even knew this until the end of season one hearing fans speak like this about how much they loved these two together.
And I think this particular fan has done a beautiful job of actually cutting moments from throughout the seasons of their relationship. It's a really-- it's a beautiful thing that ended up making me realize that in my own life I need to work on my friendships more. Like, talk about meta.
And as far as them hooking up, relax.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Women can't escape that question. Like, I love the closeness. I never even thought about that. I'm like, they need each other. They are in a relationship with each other. That's enough for me.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Well, Dani occasionally is like, should we kiss? I'm like, relax. Relax.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Just slow your roll. Next question.
- Hi. I was wondering, so you created this, and you had your YouTube show. And I was wondering, like, what inspired you or made you want to create your own projects for yourself?
CATHERINE REITMAN: Rejection and desperation, largely. Truly. I think as an actor or as a-- I've dabbled in hosting. I think you feel often so-- and believe me, I'm not speaking to your experience. I'm speaking strictly from my experience, which was I felt limited. I felt pigeonholed. I felt like I couldn't be the three-dimensional person that I am. More so I felt actually more limited hosting than acting-- sorry, limited in acting than hosting where I couldn't be all of me.
And so for the YouTube show, I did a movie-review show that's pretty wacky. And it was wonderful because I got to, week after week, write something and sort of learn and fail in a very bold way.
And then for this show, it was great to be able to write not just one but four really dynamic female characters, and they didn't have to just be the best friend or just look a certain way or just be wallflowers. It was about showing, you know, how flawed they really were. So that was pretty exciting.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: I quit now, I guess, my job. Just joking.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Stay in it. Balance it. Don't headbutt me.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Everything you just said I think is why I connected with the show and why I think US viewers will because there is this authenticity and honesty and showing that motherhood, while worth it, isn't always glamorous, right? And just balancing those things is really important, I think, for a lot of new moms because I have a lot of friends. There's so much pressure. And just being able to laugh at it and call it what it is I think helps people just get through the day sometimes.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Oh, please. And if you're stuck at home, the greatest job of all is stay-at-home mother. I mean not the greatest, the hardest job of all. I've done it too. When you're on social media all day seeing the perfectionism that is so many mothers-- well, what they're portraying. I mean, that's torture.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: It's horrible.
CATHERINE REITMAN: That's actual women-on-woman hate. It's really bad.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yeah, it is. Before we go, we do have one more question from Twitter. @Skatesnyc wants to know, "I quit my full-time job when my daughter called the nanny mommy, but now I'm fully part-- now fully part of our two-income family. And my question to you is what is your advice to those who have been out of the workforce for a baby?"
CATHERINE REITMAN: My advice? Oh God. I think advice questions are so dangerous, only because we all have our own path and you do you.
What advice do I have? Take time for yourself. Carve out moments for yourself where you can feel like you. Keep watering your plant, as they say. And the grass is always greener, you know? And don't buy the cow. Milk it.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: The early bird gets that worm.
CATHERINE REITMAN: If you-- yes, early.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Yes. That's great advice, really sound advice.
But I also think this tweet-- they should watch the show because I think there's some fun, kind of tangible things to-- well, it helps you navigate your real life too.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Well, yes, and it's something-- like, don't be afraid to fail. That is something I can say with all confidence. And we get criticized on the show sometimes for flawed choices our characters make, which is so ironic because I don't think Walter White or Jon Hamm on "Mad Men" is being criticized for his choices.
But get out there. Make some mistakes. You know, fail boldly. Light yourself on fire. Don't light yourself on fire. Don't light yourself on fire.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: That's really good advice.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Thank you.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: If you guys want to check out "Working Moms," it premieres on Netflix on February 22. Give it up for Catherine Reitman.
CATHERINE REITMAN: Thank you.
BRITTANY JONES-COOPER: Thank you.
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